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Let's see how much of you I can answer. Not to say that nothing you say is insignificant or will not be considered, but I am rather busy.

"Once again, here goes Masimba Musodza, a 30 year old youth who speaks as if he has seen all there is to see."

I make no apologies for the authority with which I speak. It is not that I am so clever, no, but that the Father, H.I.M has given me the ability to speak these things.

Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child. But the LORD said unto me, Say not, I am a child: for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee, and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak. Be not afraid of their faces: for I am with thee to deliver thee, saith the LORD. Then the LORD put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth. Jeremiah 1:6-7

At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. Matthew 11:25

"What does 'really African' mean in the context of the discussion at hand? Note also that the question you asked can be justifiably applied to the semitic scribblings that you have based your version of Rasta upon."

Perhaps you would care to elaborate more on this one.

"Where in Africa is the ancestral homeland of the hystorical being called judah? Where are the autonomous African derived records that back up his/her origins? Name the precise location of such records, state their contents as the Africans concerned did and then be kind enough to give a translation so we can all follow."

There is the Kebra Naghast. The writings of the Prophets also show you that Hebrews are scattered all over Africa. Take Zephanaiah 3:10 for example. I have also pasted a link to an article I stumbled across. There is also the writings of one Eldad Hadani. There is a book called Zambesia- I saw a copy at the National Archives in Harare- which traces the movement of the ancestors of what make up the people of Southern Africa. It neglects to mention the Khoisan, who were the original inhabitants and have contributed to the gene-pool of my people- they also contributed to the material culture, and our language. ( I know of only one Khosian ancestor, making me at least 0.02% Khoisan) But it does have the clans who left the area around Lake Tana in Ethiopia, pushed in stages by the increasing instability caused by the Muslim onlsaught. They were a motley group, some followers of the old religions- there are still vestiges of Apidemek etc in our culture to this date, and some were followers of the new Christian religion. You may corroborate this with the books by Dr Aenias Chigwedere ( current Minister of Education in Zimbabwe) With Chaminuka, a famous ancestor of our people was a Christian missionary named Ngauza, who had come from Palestine.

"I doubt that you can do this seeing as ones like you would have had nothing to follow if the semite had not scribbled down the little that he did."

This simply not true. I think this was debated not so long ago as to whether it was the writings or the livity that came first and the general agreement was that without the livity, there would be nothing to write about.

"You claim to be Buja. Now, there is no way that one as proud and as full of integrity as you are will believe as you do if not for the fact that you either know for certain that the Buja are also descended from abraham or, that you have reconciled yourself to the 'truth' of how the Buja are an inferior species whose traditions can be disposed of (or sublimated within the glorious traditions of the children of abraham). "

From this I am assuming you do not know who the Buja are. Perhaps a quick lecture is in order. The Royal clan of the Buja is of Sena stock. The Sena of course are a Semitic-Bantu group from Mozambique. All the other original Buja clans, such as the Dubes etc are of Sena stock. Ask even the Dubes of South Africa or the Tembos in Zambia and they will tell you that they came from Mozambique. The Sena are the same as the Lemba. ( this name simply means "refuse" or "reject", stemming from their refusal to eat certain meats as per Toranic tradition)I am the 13th great-grandson of the founder of the Buja nation. From 1995, I started to document the history of my family. My work was accelerated by the discovery of notes made by my father and his brothers at the insistence of my grandfather. I was then asked to compile an accurate account using modern means of information retrieval and storage. This is the work that I have been doing, paid for by myself. The National Archives has expressed interest.

"Do you believe your ancient Buja ancestors to be inferior to the descendants of abraham? Do you believe that what those ancestors followed was folly? Please come out and state this in an unambigous manner. Say it plain so all can see : Say "I Masimba Musodza am a descendant of primitive pagans who among other things, also worshipped (in thier backwardness) monstrosities that they called Goddesses."

This, sir, I must respectfully denounce as utter rubbish. I would like you to name the pagan ancestors that worshipped goddesses. There have been no goddesses in MY culture. I know there is one in yours, and accept that, but why can't you calmly accept our differences?

"Then, when you go home, go to where your ancestors rest and tell them the same thing. Tell them the same thing because I know this for sure : there is'nt a single African culture in which the feminine aspect of creative energy is not venerated. Deny this and show yourself to be aliar."

I deplore the fact that you have chosen ignorance just so as to stick a label on me.
"How is your orientation any different from that of a catlick or a muslim? Is it not true that like them, you scorn African traditions? Why beat around the (burning) bush? Why not just come straight out and say "I Masimba Musodza believe that Africans are an ignorant, paganistic species who have brought nothing to the world..."

This again is forced interpretation.

"Finally, do you accept that Dr Karenga is an African or do you think the fact that he resides in the diaspora makes his assertion of cultural Self an invalid expression of African identity?" I believe Karenga to be another of America's inventions. He was linked to a CIA plot to neutralise the Black Panthers.

"I ask this because what your question implies is that African descendants living in the diaspora are not Africans. Therefore, whatever they 'invent' can never be seen as valid expressions of an African world-view."

No, I intended my question to imply that we do not have to swallow everything that comes out of Black America.

"Careful as you go along that you do not contradict what you claim to be 'real rastafarianizimzimmer'. Note the obvious road-signs that show when you are detouring down the alley-way called hypocrisy. Be sure to give your apologies, as you state your concrete definitions, to the elders of Rasta (e.g. Leonard Howell) because, if Dr Karenga is not qualified to 'invent', then why are they?"

So, you are assuming that if I am not for Karenga then I have to be for Howell. Rather narrow, don't you think? For the record, I respect the various movements of Rastfari that have risen, but do not embrace them as my own. For me, anyone proclaiming His Imperial Majesty as the Godhead is a Rastafarian. Why I would not embrace them is that they then have practices other than those that I uphold. But the EABIC, The Church of Haile Selassie etc, these are organisations that I salute and respect. They are founded on the Bible, which was really the first to proclaim the Divinity of Emperor Haile Selassie.

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should of typed virgin mary *NM*
what about rastas converitng to followrs of crhist
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Many Rastas sight up...
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