I am not discussing for the sake of discussing, therefore whether what I say agrees with what Masimba says is not the issue. I have totally different experiences from Masimbas...and my point in discussing these issues on the board was to educate my fellows on what has really been happening in Zimbabwe. But what I see is that you have made up your mind...what you are just doing is looking for infomation to support your position. It is simply a case of selective perception. Because I do not have a predetermined position to defend and support, I find it so easy to follow through what is happening in Zimbabwe...through real life accounts, government media and 'independent' media.