greet ras marcus

I give thankhs for the lessons and sight that I gain on these reasonings. I thank you for your response to my reasoning.

This reasoning may very well be over my head...and that is why I am here, so that I may bring it to my mind's level OR I may bring my mind to its level. And I know I cannot do this in silence. But I do not see where we disagree at all.

For now, let us retract that these essentials (heat, air, water, and earth) are spirit. Let me just say that they have powers/energies/effects. This I am sure cannot be doubted.

But what I sight about these essentials is that EACH are the necessary aspects for nature, which is the harmonizing, assisting, perpetuating, healing, regenerating and promoting of cycles. But NONE are effective without ALL the others. If we just take away ONE of the essentials, we have nothing. The power of each is dependent on the power of the others...a true family. So the reason I included spirit in the discussion is because I sight spirit, at minimum, as the "bonding force" within this family.

Creation as I see it MUST contain ALL of the above aspects...and all creation contains spirit, so I must sight that all ASPECTS of creation and the Creator are spirit as well. (As above, so below...So what is NOT included in that statement?)

I must sight that hunger for earth, need for heat, thirst for water, and gasping for air are all spiritual (instinctive) actions that naturally keep me in the continuance of my life cycle...because I don't have to re-member to drink, eat, stay warm and breath...and I attribute that to netjer/nature...and that is spirit.

You had mentioned how a person can be good spirited or bad spirited...but nevertheless, they are "spirited"...and because they are alive, there is no doubt they also have the essentials.

That is why I sight that YHVH is heat, air, water and earth...and YHVH is spirit..."holy" spirit, why holy, because it is complete, whole, of one, of all.

God - Holy Spirit - Son - Man - Heat - Air - Water - Earth...ALL ONE OF THE SAME. And I agree that I do not have to look thousands of miles away to see creations and the Creator.

All essentials + spirit = physical life
no spirit...no physical life
take away just one essential...no physical life

We are temples of the Creator...so is it out of line to seek that each of my bodily functions are of the essences and each of my bodily functions are of spirit (the bonding force)...and with the uniting (balance) of all the physical essentials with spirit I have life and have the means to sustain life.
It is not the heat, air, water or earth that sustains us...it is the bonding forces that are contained in EACH essential that give us life...that is why I said that heat, air, water and earth are spirit.

I did not mean this on a "religious" level.

If I am talking in circles...that may not be such a bad thing because circles reflect continuation and balance and not beginnings and endings...and I hope that there are no endings to our reasonings.

-always humbly seeking