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What did you feel about the OWS movement when it first started?
Has your opinion changed any?

* Honestly it kind of took me by surprise. Initially the language about it being a movement/meme of everyone in opposition to the 1% financial sector elite was interesting and it made some sense. Many of my friends were interested in it or showing interest in it. It was strange to see people non-involved in issues for the past few years starting to perk up a little bit. It was a little heartening I guess. A month or so ago, some of my friends were sharing a viral video of some white college women being sprayed by mace unprovoked by a NYC cop and there was some sense of outrage about this amongst them. I made the point whether we would have had the same reaction had it not been someone "like us" - or someone we might normally have an inherent sense of sympathy for. Not really any response to this . . . but right then I started to see these issues as being problematic for this movement - since it is "my people" who account for the interest in it and bringing our baggage with it. Since 9/11 - I alway have hoped for an "a-ha" moment for "my people" to make the connection between the way that our comfort/privilege is starting to be challenged via loss of civil liberties, economic uncertainty . . .and the conditions that others have gone through for a very long time now. I thought this was the missing link to some sort of conscience raising. However . . . the same language of all these solutions is one shared in a previous link "there is only one race, the human race" . . . and issues of race are quickly swept under the rug in favor of this tired old hippie meme. Many presentations I see from these organizations of change usually are of white middle or higher class people saying that the world needs to go through some sort of "evolution" and there are many allusions to what this "better and brighter" future will look like. Yet . . . it always just seems to be these same people from a very particular race/class dynamic who are doing most of the talking for the "rest of humanity." So the 99% meme falls flat in this regard when privilege is left unexamined. I will say though that I do not think that all elements of the movement are coming from merely "give us our cut" mentality. I think there does exist a genuine concern for these greater issues within some elements - however "It’s clear that the Occupy Wall Street folks really have excellent points…But they’re no different—they can’t be any different—from the society they come from.”

What about teaparty? when it first started and now?

* The "tea party" was quickly co-opted by an institution so I think the discussion is a little different, but I think the underlying issues are the same as with the OWS as discussed above. Since we are dealing with the more "overt" racist wing of the political establishment(the reactionary and not the liberal) - I think it was very obvious that the folks who joined the fold were concerned with losing privileges outright since it was not cloaked in the language of universal concerns.

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Whiteness and the 99% *LINK*
People of Color / #OccupyWallStreet *LINK*
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hotep, but...
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excellent article! will repost & circulate widely. *NM*
million-people-march-to-capitol-hill *NM* *LINK*
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Crowdfunding Bill *NM* *LINK*
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100% Separate and Equal *LINK*
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WHITE JUDGE Beating His Own Children *LINK*
CHILD: "Dad is supposed to exercise FIT Judgment" *NM* *LINK*
How White Supremacy Works....
Concluded that Daughter's actions were misguided..
How People of Color Occupy Wall Street *LINK*
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LOL *NM* *LINK*
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Meaning?!?! What don't u understand???
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word/power *NM*
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give thankhs...
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Global Labor Arbitrage *LINK*
interesting *NM* *LINK*
Attention, Protestors: Ur Probably Part of the 1% *NM* *LINK*
The American Contract with whites
Banned by the OWS (99%) *LINK*
they banned you from the forum?! *NM*
word/power seshata, BUT...
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Counter-Racist Book Review - George Orwell 1984 *LINK*
Right On!!! *NM*
George Orwell's Last Warning / 1984 *NM* *LINK*
"Long Live Big Brother" ....means? *LINK*
"Do It To Julia" ........means *LINK*
Houston-protesters-arrested-downtown *NM* *LINK*
OWS forum posts "sanitized" *NM* *LINK*
258 Comments ? *NM* *LINK*
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The Corporation is today's dominant institution *NM* *LINK*
Indeed...the real "frankenstein's monster" *NM*
the "White Knight" *LINK*
Still think Compensation is the natural order? *NM*
Video of officers shooting in Tranquility Park
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Occupy Houston
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Tranquility Park shooter appears in court *LINK*
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Occupy the Dream *LINK*
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