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Re: Africa =Ethiopia *LINK*

Posted By: kristine is not on bs
Date: Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 4:45 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Africa =Ethiopia (givin_thanx)

givin thanx

It seems one of the most confused here is you. Although I personally have not seen a specific list of Ras Tafari elders I do know that the original and only elders in this movement were and are Black. I also am aware that although the origins of Rasta are ancient, the reemergence in the 1930s was in the Caribbean, specifically Jamaica, and has to this day an entire impact on the whole of the Caribbean, and into other areas where there are displaced Africans.

I have also come to know that due to minimal resources and a forced Christianized mindset, much of what was originally produced as the original Rasta concepts, is being used today as a pretext for arguments against many who do not identify with Christianity. Many hardcore Christians are trying to see the light through the banner of Rasta.

White involvement in Rasta, particularly as Ras Tafari is one of the biggest tragedies to befall the movement. This being due to the casual way they embrace Ras Tafari. As a white woman, I personally have rejected the notion of taking on the various titles and look, just to feel I am involved. This has never been my focus.

In addition, the misinformation being spread, particularly by white people in the U S and to some degree in Europe is becoming more devastating as the original and current elders, who should be setting the agenda are being overrun by the advanced technology and misused resources afforded to whites, who want to take over. This to me is exactly the method that is used by the "babylon" system i.e. the U S government and its allies, to oppress the very people ones here claim to be aligning with or "helping".

As such, it is appropriate that all these issues be addressed in the open and measured against the greater body of information that is available today. I do not think that when Haile Selassie gave land to a group in Jamaica, he meant that was to be the only set of people to define repatriation, and to control the whole movement for all Rastas. Many Rastas Repatriate to Africa and do not relate to this one body.

I think it is even more dangerous after reading this thread for Rastas to continually accept the views of a handful of people as the main body to determine how the movement developes.

There was an article written by Tyehimba that was posted on this board and many people agreed it was important, and I think it should be revisited as some are now calling into question some of the important points he made which they supported.

check out the link.

http://www.rastaspeaks.com/tyehimba/2004/rastafari.html

Messages In This Thread

Whites and Repatriation
Ayinde -- Thursday, 15 April 2004, at 3:59 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
heat_air_wata -- Thursday, 15 April 2004, at 4:04 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
heat_air_wata -- Thursday, 15 April 2004, at 5:09 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
gman -- Thursday, 15 April 2004, at 6:45 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
diyouth -- Thursday, 15 April 2004, at 7:20 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
Ayinde -- Thursday, 15 April 2004, at 7:38 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
Ras C. Liontree -- Friday, 16 April 2004, at 12:04 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
gman -- Friday, 16 April 2004, at 5:26 p.m.
Still racism? *LINK*
Jahvier -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 8:16 p.m.
Re: Still racism?
Rootsie -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 12:00 a.m.
Re: Still racism?
Jahvier -- Tuesday, 20 April 2004, at 12:16 p.m.
Re: Still racism?
iyah360 -- Tuesday, 20 April 2004, at 12:51 p.m.
Re: Still racism?
yan -- Tuesday, 20 April 2004, at 1:59 p.m.
Rootsie!!!!!!!!
kaya IsesaJah -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 12:40 p.m.
Your true color shows, kaya IsesaJah!!!
Ayinde -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 12:48 p.m.
YES I COLOUR INI HUMAN
kaya IsesaJah -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 4:36 p.m.
YES I COLOUR INI HUMAN
yan -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 5:41 p.m.
fi Yan
kaya IsesaJah -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 9:25 a.m.
why do they refer to themselves as "white"
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 15 April 2004, at 10:06 p.m.
caucasians united for reparation and emancipation *LINK*
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 15 April 2004, at 10:22 p.m.
better yet,,,,how about redneck reparations *LINK*
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 15 April 2004, at 10:39 p.m.
Re: better yet,,,,how about redneck reparations
heat_air_wata -- Friday, 16 April 2004, at 1:57 a.m.
Re: better yet,,,,how about redneck reparations
Ayinde -- Friday, 16 April 2004, at 11:20 a.m.
Re: better yet,,,,how about redneck reparations
heat_air_wata -- Friday, 16 April 2004, at 2:55 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
Israelite Anbessa -- Friday, 16 April 2004, at 1:20 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
yan -- Friday, 16 April 2004, at 2:58 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
iyah360 -- Friday, 16 April 2004, at 3:23 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
yan -- Friday, 16 April 2004, at 3:32 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
Ayinde -- Friday, 16 April 2004, at 4:39 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
diyouth -- Friday, 16 April 2004, at 9:05 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation *LINK*
Ayinde -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 11:29 a.m.
Reparations *LINK*
gman -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 12:15 p.m.
Re: Reparations
Ayinde -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 1:08 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
diyouth -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 3:09 p.m.
whites and repatriation
ras adam simeon -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 1:25 p.m.
Re: whites and repatriation
jahlives -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 1:30 p.m.
whites and repatriation
ras adam simeon -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 2:02 p.m.
Re: whites and repatriation
yan -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 2:45 p.m.
Re: whites and repatriation
yan -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 2:25 p.m.
Re: whites and repatriation
heat_air_wata -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 2:51 p.m.
Re: Math, English and Bible Studies??
Ras Tyehimba -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 7:03 p.m.
whites and repatriation
ras adam simeon -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 2:51 p.m.
Re: whites and repatriation
Ayinde -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 3:14 p.m.
whites and repatriation *LINK*
ras adam simeon -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 3:26 p.m.
Re: whites and repatriation
yan -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 3:52 p.m.
whites and repatriation
ras adam simeon -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 4:00 p.m.
Re: whites and repatriation
yan -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 4:19 p.m.
Re: whites and repatriation
Ayinde -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 4:04 p.m.
Re: whites and repatriation
heat_air_wata -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 6:46 p.m.
whites and repatriation
ras adam simeon -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 7:41 p.m.
Re: whites and repatriation
Ayinde -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 8:38 p.m.
Re: whites and repatriation
givin_thanx -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 2:52 a.m.
Re: whites and repatriation
kristine is not on bs -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 10:17 p.m.
whites + rematriation
ras adam simeon -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 4:44 p.m.
Re: whites + rematriation
Ayinde -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 5:17 p.m.
whites + rematriation
ras adam simeon -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 5:27 p.m.
Re: whites + rematriation
Ayinde -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 5:48 p.m.
Re: whites + rematriation
kristine is not on bs -- Tuesday, 20 April 2004, at 2:18 a.m.
Re: whites and repatriation
ANCIENT YOUTH -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 5:13 p.m.
whites + repatriation
ras adam simeon -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 5:37 p.m.
The term Repatriation to Africans is no Semantics
yan -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 6:50 p.m.
The term Repatriation to Africans is no Semantics
ras adam simeon -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 8:25 p.m.
Re: The term Repatriation to Africans is no Semant
yan -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 9:04 p.m.
The term Repatriation to Africans is no Semantics
ras adam simeon -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 9:53 p.m.
Re: The term Repatriation to Africans is no Semant
givin_thanx -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 10:43 p.m.
Apologies for crossing the personal line RASTAFARI *NM*
givin_thanx -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 11:37 p.m.
Re: The term Repatriation to Africans is no Semant
yan -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 10:43 p.m.
Re: The term Repatriation to Africans is no Semant
Ayinde -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 11:31 p.m.
Answer this Adam
kristine is not on bs -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 2:18 a.m.
Answer this...
ras adam simeon -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 6:53 a.m.
Re: Answer this...
Ras Tyehimba -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 9:21 a.m.
Answer this...
ras adam simeon -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 4:43 p.m.
Re: Answer this...
Ayinde -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 5:23 p.m.
Re: Answer this...
Ayinde -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 2:37 p.m.
Answer this...
ras adam simeon -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 5:13 p.m.
Re: Answer this...
Ayinde -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 6:21 p.m.
Re: whites + repatriation
kaya IsesaJah -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 9:33 a.m.
Re: whites + repatriation
iyah360 -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 9:49 a.m.
fi yuh Bredrin of Rastafari
kaya IsesaJah -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 4:15 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
PatriotWarrior -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 8:58 p.m.
an analogy
ras adam simeon -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 7:37 a.m.
Re: an analogy
Rootsie -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 9:33 a.m.
an analogy
ras adam simeon -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 10:01 a.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
Ayinde -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 11:01 a.m.
an analogy
ras adam simeon -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 11:22 a.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
Ayinde -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 11:48 a.m.
an analogy
ras adam simeon -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 1:00 p.m.
Re: Reactions
Tracey -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 1:55 p.m.
an analogy
ras adam simeon -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 2:15 p.m.
Re: an analogy
Rootsie -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 11:25 a.m.
Re: an analogy
heat_air_wata -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 12:05 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
Ayinde -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 12:11 p.m.
Re: an analogy
kristine is not on bs -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 2:39 p.m.
Re: an analogy
heat_air_wata -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 3:56 p.m.
an analogy
ras adam simeon -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 1:07 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
Ayinde -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 1:46 p.m.
whites + repatraition
ras adam simeon -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 1:58 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
Ayinde -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 2:17 p.m.
Re: whites + repatraition
Akymanah -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 2:23 p.m.
white rasta
ras adam simeon -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 2:44 p.m.
Re: white rasta
Rootsie -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 3:33 p.m.
white rasta
ras adam simeon -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 3:38 p.m.
white rasta
ras adam simeon -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 3:46 p.m.
Re: white rasta
Ayinde -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 4:11 p.m.
white rasta
ras adam simeon -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 4:21 p.m.
Re: white rasta
Ayinde -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 4:27 p.m.
white rasta
ras adam simeon -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 4:32 p.m.
Re: white rasta
Israelite Anbessa -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 4:27 p.m.
Re: white rasta *LINK*
Ayinde -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 4:43 p.m.
Re: white rasta
Rootsie -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 4:52 p.m.
Re: white rasta
Israelite Anbessa -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 2:34 p.m.
Re: white rasta
heat_air_wata -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 4:06 p.m.
Re: white rasta
diyouth -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 6:34 p.m.
Re: whites + repatraition
diyouth -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 6:44 p.m.
Re: whites + repatraition
kristine is not on bs -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 4:24 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
iyah360 -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 9:27 a.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
heat_air_wata -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 1:57 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
iyah360 -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 3:08 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
kristine is not on bs -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 3:05 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
iyah360 -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 3:09 p.m.
Re: Give Thanks Ras Adam!
Israelite Anbessa -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 2:12 p.m.
give thanks Israelite Anbessa
ras adam simeon -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 2:27 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
Ayinde -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 2:48 p.m.
Re: give thanks Israelite Anbessa
yan -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 4:38 p.m.
white rasta
ras adam simeon -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 4:43 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
yan -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 4:58 p.m.
i thought
heat_air_wata -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 5:12 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
yan -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 5:23 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation *LINK*
yan -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 5:55 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
diyouth -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 6:23 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation *LINK*
yan -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 6:38 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
diyouth -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 7:11 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
yan -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 7:32 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
diyouth -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 7:51 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
heat_air_wata -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 7:25 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
diyouth -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 7:32 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
heat_air_wata -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 7:44 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
heat_air_wata -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 7:45 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
heat_air_wata -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 1:30 a.m.
Re: give thanks Israelite Anbessa
givin_thanx -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 10:39 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
yan -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 11:03 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
givin_thanx -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 12:06 a.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
yan -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 1:44 a.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
givin_thanx -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 1:58 a.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
Ayinde -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 12:04 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
givin_thanx -- Tuesday, 20 April 2004, at 2:22 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
Ayinde -- Tuesday, 20 April 2004, at 2:37 p.m.
Re: give thanks Israelite Anbessa
Israelite Anbessa -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 2:42 p.m.
Re: error
Israelite Anbessa -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 2:45 p.m.
Re: give thanks Israelite Anbessa
Israelite Anbessa -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 2:48 p.m.
Re:Sorry.... it just doesn´t work *NM*
Israelite Anbessa -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 2:49 p.m.
truth is that there are no "white" rasta movement
seshatasefekht -- Sunday, 18 April 2004, at 10:33 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
rasjahsun -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 2:46 p.m.
Re: Whites and Repatriation
diyouth -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 6:07 p.m.
whites know they are not "white"
seshatasefekht -- Monday, 19 April 2004, at 9:16 p.m.
Re: whites know they are not "white"
diyouth -- Tuesday, 20 April 2004, at 6:42 p.m.
WHY???
Israelite Anbessa -- Tuesday, 20 April 2004, at 3:29 p.m.
Re: BECAUSE!!!
Ayinde -- Tuesday, 20 April 2004, at 4:24 p.m.
Re: BECAUSE!!!
Israelite Anbessa -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 3:11 p.m.
Re: BECAUSE!!!
Ayinde -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 3:36 p.m.
Re: BECAUSE!!!
Israelite Anbessa -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 12:34 p.m.
Repatriating to where?
sis naphtali -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 4:35 a.m.
Re: Africa =Ethiopia
Ras Tyehimba -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 8:03 a.m.
Re: Africa =Ethiopia
sis naphtali -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 1:10 a.m.
Re: Africa =Ethiopia
givin_thanx -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 1:49 a.m.
Re: Africa =Ethiopia *LINK*
kristine is not on bs -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 4:45 a.m.
Re: Africa =Ethiopia
heat_air_wata -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 2:12 p.m.
Re: Repatriating to where?
kaya IsesaJah -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 11:57 a.m.
Re: Repatriating to where?
Ayinde -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 1:28 p.m.
Re: Repatriating to where?
Rasta Israelites -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 2:11 p.m.
Re: Repatriating to where?
kaya IsesaJah -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 4:48 p.m.
Re: Repatriating to where?
yan -- Wednesday, 21 April 2004, at 5:23 p.m.
Re: wordplay
rasi -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 9:59 a.m.
Re: wordplay
heat_air_wata -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 2:20 p.m.
Re: wordplay
iyah360 -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 2:50 p.m.
Re: wordplay *NM*
rasi -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 2:59 p.m.
Re: wordplay
iyah360 -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 2:59 p.m.
Re: wordplay
Ayinde -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 3:19 p.m.
Re: wordplay
rasi -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 6:09 p.m.
Re: wordplay
jahlives -- Thursday, 22 April 2004, at 5:19 p.m.

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