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Re: Marcus Garvey: pg 29: attn: adissa

the above mentioned post was typed as a result of teh allegation made by bredrin adissa, in the following statement attibuted by the bredrin, as a result of statements made in the thread "passind of idi amin"
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"Blessed Love, would you happen to be of the Europians and Asians who were chased out of Uganda? becouse if your not, then you must fall under the catagory of the individuals spoken of by Hon. Prophet Marcus Garvey in "Philosiphy and Opinions of Marcus Garvey" PAGE 29."
-qoutes atributed to bredrin addisa.
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now let iani examine and reason respectfully concerning the I's allegation that one is a traitor, if one speaks unfavorbaly about african heads of states, most notably idi amin.
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IN THE FIGHT TO REACH THE TOP THE OPPRESSED HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ENCUMBERED BY THE TRAITORS OF THEIR OWN RACE, MADE UP OF THOSE OF LITTLE FAITH AND THOSE WHO ARE GENERAALY SUSCEPTIBLE TO BRIBERY FOR THE SELLING OUT OF THE RIGHTS OF THEIR OWN PEOPLE.
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"Well before the coup, British diplomats had given Amin the seal of approval. "A splendid man . . . completely reliable . . . but . . . virtually bone from the neck up". In other words pro-British, and thick enough to be controlled.

The public record documents make clear that Britain wanted to recognise Amin on the first day of the coup, but was deterred by the suspicion of some African leaders, notably Tanzania's Julius Nyerere, that Britain had staged the coup to oust Obote."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/obituaries/story/0,3604,1021290,00.html

-in other words Britain knew well before the actual coup in Uganda, that Idi Amin planned to overthrow Obote (previous Pres. of Uganda. It is also easy to find documentation that Amin was in fact SUPPORTED by the UK, in his overthrow of of Milton Obote. It is also very easy to find AFRICAN DOCUMENTATION that Amin was an OFFICER IN THE BRITAIN/UGANDAN COLONIAL ARMY.
so I respectfully ask, who is the traitor, Idi Amin or his opposition?
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AS NEGROES, WE ARE NOT ENTIRELY FREE OF SUCH AN ENCUMBEREANCE. TO BE OUTSPOKEN, I BELIEVE WE ARE ENCUMBERED IN THIS WAY THAN ANY OTHER RACE IN THE WORLD, BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF TRAINING AND PREPARATION FOR FITTING US FOR A PLACE IN THE WORLD AMONG OTHER NATIONS AND RACES.
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perfectly said, iani are not yet equipped to sustain ourselves independently as a people. is it just because of lack of training and preparation. i dont know, i would assert though that centuries of oppression have invariably placed Africans in a position that provides immense challenges for IanI as a people.
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THE TRAITOR OF OTHER RACES IS GENERALLY CONFINED TO THE MEDIOCRE OR IRRESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUAL, BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, THE TRAITORS AMONG THE NEGRO RACE ARE GENERALLY TO BE FOUND AMONG THE MEN HIGHEST PLACED IN EDUCATION AND SOCIETY, THE FELLOWS WHO CALL THEMSELVES LEADERS.
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i give thanks to adissa, for encouraging iani to reread and retype pg 29, as it, in my humble opinion validates the assertions and contempt that i hold for 'traitors of the race.'
-amin had the potential to be a great man, as he came from modest means and rose up to be a man of great stature, yes indeed, hye was A FELLOW WHO CALLED HIMSELF A LEADER, FIELD GENERAL AND A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER TITLES THAT HE BESTOWED UPON HIMSELF.-the traitor of the negro race.
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FOR US TO EXAMINE OURSELVES THOROUGHLY AS A PEOPLE WE HAVE MORE TRAITORS THAN LEADERS,
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seen, Marcus. ones and ones call themselves leaders, but dem traitors.
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BECAUSE NEARLY EVERYONE WHO ESSAYS TO LEAD THE RACE AT THIS TIME DOES SO BY FIRST ESTABLISHING HIMSELF AS A PET OF SOME PHILANTHROPIST OF ANOTHER RACE,
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---hmmm, wonder if this one applies to amin?
---after his relationship with UROPE FLOUNDERED, HE HAD A DREAM, INSPIRED BY ALLAH, to kick out the Indians, thus endearing him to ARABS. I WONDER IF THIS IS WHAT mARCUS WAS REFERRING TO WHEN HE SAID A TRAITOR FIRST ESTABLISHES HIMSELF AS A PET OF ANOTHER RACE. UROPEANS, ARABS, AND AMIN. who the cap fit..........

"This did not prevent Britain from carrying out a roaring trade with Amin. British planes flew luxury consumer goods to Kampala on a weekly basis. These included whisky, wines, cheese, butter, sunglasses and fancy cars, and weapons for army officers and troops at a time when most Ugandans could not find them in shops or outside shops. He had, after all, served British interest in apartheid South Africa by breaking up the diplomatic influence of Nyerere, Obote and Kaunda in support for liberation movements in Southern Africa." http://allafrica.com/stories/200308270065.html
(will you assert that this is propoganda, adissa? if so i humbly ask that you present information to the contrary)
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TO WHOM HE WILL GO AND DEBASE HIS RACE IN THE WORST FORM, HUMILIATE HIS OWN MANHOOD, AND THEREBY WIN SYMPATHY OF THE 'GREAT BENEFACTOR,' WHO WILL DICTATE TO HIM WHAT HE SHOULD DO IN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE NEGRO RACE. IT IS GENERALLY 'YOU MUST GOUT AND TEACH YOUR PEOPLE TO BE MEEK AND HUMBLE; TELL THEM TO BE GOOD SERVANTS, LOYAL AND OBEDIENT TO THEIR MASTERS.' IF YOU WILL TEACH THEM SUCH A DOCTRINE YOU CAN ALWAYS DEPEND ON ME TO GIVE $1000 A YEAR OR $5000 A YEAR FOR THE SUPPORT OF YOURSELF, THE NEWSPAPER OR INSTITUTION YOU REPRESENT. I WILL ALWAYS RECOMMEND YOU TO MY FRIENDS AS A GOOD FELLOW WHO IS ALL RIGHT,' WITH THIS ADVICE AND PROSPECT OF PATRONAGE THE AVERAGE NEGRO LEADER GOES OUT TO LEAD THE UNFORTUNATE MASS. THESE LEADERS TELL US HOW GOOD SO AND SO IS, HOW MANY GOOD FRIENDS WE HAVE IN THE OPPOSITE RACE, AND THAT IF WE LEAVE EVERYTHING TO THEM ALL WILL WORK OUT WELL.
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"Amin was overthrown by a combined force of the Tanzanian army and Ugandan exiles, and has since lived a quiet life in Saudi Arabia, neither making political statements nor granting interviews to the press.
He lives on a stipend of $1,500 a month provided by the Saudi royal family."
-----fact or fiction. It seems like pg 29 was written especially for amin, Marcus Garvey almost even got the dollar figure right.
-----"IF YOU WILL TEACH THEM SUCH A DOCTRINE YOU CAN ALWAYS DEPEND ON ME TO GIVE $1000 A YEAR OR $5000 A YEAR FOR THE SUPPORT OF YOURSELF.-Rt. Hon. Marcus Garvey."
if it looks like a duck, quake likes a duck, must be a,...
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THIS IS THE KIND OF LEADERSHIP WE HAVE BEEN HAVING FOR THE LAST FIFTY YEARS. IT IS NOTHING ELSE BUT TREACHERY AND TREASON OF THE WORST KIND. THIS MAN WILL COMPROMISE THE ATTITUDE OF HIS COUNTRY IS A TRAITOR, AND EVEN SO THE MAN WHO WILL COMPROMISE THE RIGHTS OF HIS RACE CAN BE CLASSIFEIED IN NO OTHER WAY THAN THE TRAITOR ALSO.
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How does an unpopular dictator end his days? Alone of course -
Of course, this lack of fulfillment is small penance after an opulent lifestyle in Saudi Arabia courtesy of the royal family (which included cars, drivers, cooks, maids and a monthly allowance to cater for him and his wives) and the sadistic pleasure he got from singlehandedly destroying 400,000 lives and Uganda, the pearl of Africa."
http://www.afrika.no/Detailed/3879.html
ok, ok, maybe amin wasnt that bad at all,
no it wasnt that bad that during the Mau Mau war, Amin was deployed with the "E" company of the KAR (King's African Rifles) (BRITISH ARMY)to Muranga district in Kenya. As a corporal, Amin fought against the Mau Mau at Tuso, Kairo, Kinyona and Kangema through most of 1953. He was so bloodthirsty that the British kept promoting him and putting their dirty work in his hands.
JOMO KENYATTA, THAT NAME RINGS A BELL, LEADER OF THE MAU MAU PEOPLE THAT DROVE THE BRITISH UP OUT OF KENYA, YEAH THAT JOMO KENYATTA THAT THE BURNING SPEAR SPEAKS OF, THAT JOMO KENYATTA, THAT IS A TRUE FREEOM FIGHTER FOR AFRICAN LIBERATION, yeah thats the BROTHER THAT IDI AMIN FOUGHT AGAINST, TO PROTECT THE BRITISH INTEREST IN KENYA. nah idi amin couldnt have done that, not your field mashall general, your president for life. who the cap fit.
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NOT UNITL WE SETTLE DOWN AS FOUR HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE AND LET THE MEN WHO HAVE PLACED THEMSELVES IN THE LEAD OF US REALIZE THAT WE ARE DISGUSTED AND DISSATISFIED, AND THAT WE SHALL HAVE A LEADESHIP OF OUR OWN AND STICK BY IT WHEN WE GET IT, WILL WE BE ABLE TO LIFT OURSELVES FROM THIS MIRE OF DEGREDATION TO THE HEIGHTS OF PROSPERITY, HUMAN LIBERTY AND HUMAN APPRECIATION.
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period. IanI give thanks and praises for lessons on life and love for my people that the RT. HON MARCUS MOSIAH GARVEY HAS BESTOWED UPON IANI. I pray that African and non African people everywhere, chant down oppression for all people. IanI pray for the Acholi people of Uganda, and all people everwhere that have been OPPRESSED BY TRAITORS OF THE RACE.

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