Re: North, West, Fire, Water, Birthplace *LINK*
Posted By: karibkween In Response To: Re: North, West, Fire, Water, Birthplace (karibkween)
Date: Tuesday, 27 September 2011, at 5:08 p.m.
In Response To: Re: North, West, Fire, Water, Birthplace (karibkween)
"The concept that the Ethiopians living at the end of the world were particularly wise was already current in the time of Homer. Plato states that when the Oceanus was navigable the island of Atlantis was against its mouth (Timaeus 24E). In the original conception Oceanus was a river that continued the Nile along the line of the Equator: the island of Atlantis of Hanno was placed where there should have been the mouth of this river that could no longer be found. Plato puts the island in line with the Pillar of Herakles; this is a confusion of the Pillar of the Sky (Ahoggar, Atlas) mentioned by Herodotus, with the Pillars of Herakles, influenced by the identification of Atlantis with the mythical island of the Hesperides which should be at the extreme west, outside the Pillars of Herakles. According to Plato (Critias 108E) the island of Atlantis created an impassable barrier that prevented sailing further; Hanno stopped at Atlantis, and the concept that one could not go beyond the Equator was still much alive in our age of discoveries.
He states that there used to be a circular Island of Atlantis, which had a diameter of 127 stadia and that this island had a territory that was approximately rectangular with a width of 2000 stadia and a height of 3000 stadia. The Island and its territory disappeared under the sea because of convulsions of the earth, so that there remain only islands which are like the skeleton of a person who died wasted by disease.
The statement that the river Oceanus no longer exists explains why Plato states that the convulsion that caused the ruin of the Island of Atlantis took place 9000 years before his time. The figure of 9000 years indicates that he computed the Great Year of the precession by the round figure of 24,000 years (2 human generations of 40 years to one degree of precession). There had been a time before Plato, which can be counted as 45° of precession or 3000 years, in which the Vernal Equinox was near Sagittarii, the point of the arrow of Sagittarius, with the result that the Equator, the Ecliptic, and the Milky Way crossed each other in one point. This was the happy age in which the three Gorgons were united in one place, forming a single pivot of the cosmos. At this time the Nile, which is the equivalent on earth of the Milky Way, originated from this pivot of the cosmos. At that time the territory of Buganda on the shores of Lake Victoria was the Garden of the Hesperides or Garden of Eden. This Garden, with the tree that holds the apple, (i.e., the cosmos), was placed at the Equator at longitude 32°38’E. Plato reasoned that since it is the course of the Milky Way that determines the course of the Nile, the river Oceanus that goes from Lake Victoria to the Southern Horn could not have existed at that time: the Oceanus must have existed 6000 years earlier when the Milky Way was at an angle of 90° with the Nile. In other words, the river Oceanus existed as earthly counterpart of the Milky Way 9000 years or 135° of precession before Plato’s time. At this time the Island of Atlantis was against the mouth of Oceanus and hence was the Garden of the Hesperides, the seat of the Gorgons, the pivot of the world.
But if the Island of Atlantis is considered the pivot of the cosmos, the Nile can no longer be the north-south axis of the Oikoumene. But that problem had already been solved because the position had been computed as being placed on the meridian at Mount Atlas, the Pillar of the Sky, which was already considered a pivot of the world. Longitude 6°49’ replaced longitude 32°38’ as the axis of the Oikoumene. Even though Plato claims that his information was derived from Egypt, it must have been the Carthaginians who performed these calculations that robbed the Egyptians of the privilege of living on the axis of the Oikoumene.
It was because of the Atlas–Pillar of the sky that the pivot of the cosmos was placed at Ilha São Tomé, called Island of Atlantis. A result of the procedure by which this island became significant is that when Plato lists the founder of Atlantis and his ten sons, he mentions the ancestors of the Berbers, who must have been originally associated with the Atlas, Pillar of the Sky. This fundamental fact was discovered by the geologist Paul Borchardt. The founder of the dynasty of Atlantis is called Euennor by Plato, which is a clear rendering of the name of Uenur, the mythical father of all the Berbers. The name of his daughter Kleito possibly corresponds to Kel-Ait, “people of the south.” She had five couples of twins whose names seem to represent the main tribes of the Berbers. In at least half of the cases the names can be certainly identified with Berber tribal names; in the other cases the identification is less certain, but the certain identifications prove the case. According to Plato, the first couple of twins was called Atlas and Gadeiros, that is, Eumelos in Greek. The name Atlas does not need explanation. Plato is reporting a confused interpretation when he states that Gadeiros means Eumelos in Greek: the true story is that the Carthaginian term agadir, accepted by the Berbers, corresponds to a native term mel. Pliny (IV 22, 122) explains the name of Cadiz as follows: Poeni Gadir ita Punica lingua saepem significante. This detail proves that Plato was drawing on a Carthaginian source. Plato also states that Gadeiros “received as his portion the portion of the island near the Pillars of Herkules” ; this proves that the original document did not place the descendant of Euennor in the Island of Atlantis, but in the geodetic square Kerne, Pillars of Herkules, Carthage."
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