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Communal Interest vs Self-Interest *LINK*

Posted By: karibkween
Date: Sunday, 24 October 2010, at 6:58 p.m.

In Response To: Re: The New Tax Man: Big Banks and Hedge Funds (three_Sixty)

"We would have to examine the municipal government's relationship to the system as a whole - is it autonomous, or just doing the bidding of the greater system as a whole?"

I believe our view of the system is reversed, I sense that your view of the system is top-down, while my view of the system is from the bottom-up. A municipal authority is as autonomous as it wants to be, given the fact that its the citizens of the community who are its members and whose votes grant access to the club. Civilization from the ground up.

This is the very complaint I have with the African-American community; how many African-American owned business were driven into the ground after desegregation? Businesses that served the segregated communities and had a stake in the welfare of the community. So in a sense affluent African-Americans have a legitimate gripe with their underclass. Once they, (the underclass) were granted access to the non-African-American economy they quickly abandoned their own communities, so why should succeeding generations of the black bourgeois class risk further ruin.

But therein lies the rub, without a reconciliation both are doomed, the underclass needs Black capital and the upper class needs the security, trust and respect that can only be achieved through community.

Check out the Brits' and French' response to the same trials facing the US.

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=22781

Class War British Style

Messages In This Thread

"Extremism in Connecticut" *LINK*
karibkween -- Wednesday, 4 August 2010, at 12:39 p.m.
Re: "Extremism in Connecticut"
three_sixty -- Wednesday, 4 August 2010, at 9:08 p.m.
Re: "Extremism in Connecticut" *LINK*
karibkween -- Thursday, 5 August 2010, at 10:41 p.m.
The Supreme Coward *LINK*
karibkween -- Tuesday, 10 August 2010, at 11:29 a.m.
Contrived Chaos: Like the Bomb in Port-of-Spain. *LINK*
karibkween -- Thursday, 12 August 2010, at 2:08 p.m.
Re: Contrived Chaos: Like the Bomb in Port-of-Spai *LINK*
karibkween -- Thursday, 12 August 2010, at 10:22 p.m.
re: *NM* *LINK*
three_sixty -- Wednesday, 25 August 2010, at 3:44 p.m.
Re: re: *NM* *LINK*
three_sixty -- Wednesday, 25 August 2010, at 3:46 p.m.
Common Ground?
karibkween -- Wednesday, 25 August 2010, at 10:58 p.m.
Re: Common Ground? *LINK*
three_sixty -- Thursday, 26 August 2010, at 5:26 p.m.
Re: Common Ground?
karibkween -- Thursday, 26 August 2010, at 6:30 p.m.
The American Renter - A theory
karibkween -- Wednesday, 1 September 2010, at 2:22 p.m.
Re: The American Renter - A theory *LINK*
karibkween -- Friday, 3 September 2010, at 1:08 p.m.
Re: The American Renter - A theory *LINK*
three_sixty -- Monday, 6 September 2010, at 2:30 p.m.
Re: The American Renter - A theory
karibkween -- Monday, 6 September 2010, at 6:53 p.m.
Re: The American Renter - A theory *LINK*
three_sixty -- Monday, 6 September 2010, at 2:13 p.m.
Re: The American Renter - A theory
karibkween -- Monday, 6 September 2010, at 6:49 p.m.
The New Tax Man: Big Banks and Hedge Funds *NM* *LINK*
three_sixty -- Saturday, 23 October 2010, at 8:48 p.m.
Re: The New Tax Man: Big Banks and Hedge Funds *LINK*
karibkween -- Sunday, 24 October 2010, at 3:41 p.m.
Re: The New Tax Man: Big Banks and Hedge Funds
karibkween -- Sunday, 24 October 2010, at 4:45 p.m.
Re: The New Tax Man: Big Banks and Hedge Funds
three_Sixty -- Sunday, 24 October 2010, at 5:08 p.m.
Communal Interest vs Self-Interest *LINK*
karibkween -- Sunday, 24 October 2010, at 6:58 p.m.
Re: Communal Interest vs Self-Interest
three_Sixty -- Tuesday, 2 November 2010, at 8:23 p.m.
Re: Communal Interest vs Self-Interest *LINK*
karibkween -- Friday, 12 November 2010, at 2:50 p.m.
Re: Communal Interest vs Self-Interest
three_sixty -- Tuesday, 16 November 2010, at 12:26 p.m.
Re: Communal Interest vs Self-Interest
karibkween -- Tuesday, 16 November 2010, at 2:14 p.m.
Re: Communal Interest vs Self-Interest *LINK*
karibkween -- Tuesday, 16 November 2010, at 8:31 p.m.
Re: Communal Interest vs Self-Interest *LINK*
three_sixty -- Tuesday, 23 November 2010, at 2:48 p.m.
Re: Communal Interest vs Self-Interest
karibkween -- Tuesday, 23 November 2010, at 3:53 p.m.
Re: Communal Interest vs Self-Interest
three_sixty -- Monday, 29 November 2010, at 12:24 p.m.
Re: Communal Interest vs Self-Interest *LINK*
karibkween -- Monday, 6 December 2010, at 8:13 p.m.
Re: Communal Interest vs Self-Interest *NM* *LINK*
three_sixty -- Thursday, 16 December 2010, at 9:48 p.m.
Quid Pro Quo
karibkween -- Saturday, 18 December 2010, at 1:00 p.m.
Re: Quid Pro Quo *LINK*
karibkween -- Tuesday, 15 February 2011, at 12:30 p.m.
Re: Communal Interest vs Self-Interest *LINK*
karibkween -- Wednesday, 26 October 2011, at 11:50 a.m.
Re: Communal Interest vs Self-Interest *NM* *LINK*
three_sixty -- Wednesday, 26 October 2011, at 1:40 p.m.
Re: The New Tax Man: Big Banks and Hedge Funds
karibkween -- Sunday, 24 October 2010, at 7:11 p.m.
Re: The New Tax Man: Big Banks and Hedge Funds *LINK*
karibkween -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 8:33 p.m.
Re: The New Tax Man: Big Banks and Hedge Funds *NM* *LINK*
three_sixty -- Tuesday, 2 November 2010, at 8:43 p.m.
Judging from the election results... *LINK*
karibkween -- Wednesday, 3 November 2010, at 12:40 a.m.
British Royalty vs American Royalty *LINK*
karibkween -- Monday, 22 November 2010, at 11:52 a.m.
Re: British Royalty vs American Royalty *LINK*
karibkween -- Monday, 22 November 2010, at 11:57 a.m.
Re: British Royalty vs American Royalty *LINK*
karibkween -- Monday, 22 November 2010, at 12:02 p.m.
Re: The New Tax Man: Big Banks and Hedge Funds *NM* *LINK*
karibkween -- Monday, 25 October 2010, at 9:06 p.m.
Open Letter to Communities Working to Stop Frackin *NM* *LINK*
three_sixty -- Wednesday, 17 November 2010, at 12:31 p.m.
Re: Open Letter to Communities Working to Stop Fra *LINK*
karibkween -- Thursday, 18 November 2010, at 10:16 p.m.
Re: Open Letter to Communities Working to Stop Fra *LINK*
karibkween -- Friday, 19 November 2010, at 4:40 p.m.
Death to Local Community Organizations *LINK*
karibkween -- Thursday, 10 March 2011, at 12:57 a.m.
Re: Death to Local Community Organizations
karibkween -- Thursday, 10 March 2011, at 1:04 a.m.
Re: The American Renter - A theory *LINK*
karibkween -- Wednesday, 19 January 2011, at 12:55 p.m.
Re: Common Ground?
three_sixty -- Tuesday, 7 September 2010, at 5:47 p.m.
Where does personal accountability...
karibkween -- Tuesday, 7 September 2010, at 6:39 p.m.
Re: Where does personal accountability...
three_Sixty -- Tuesday, 14 September 2010, at 6:47 p.m.
All in favor say Aye! *NM*
karibkween -- Wednesday, 15 September 2010, at 11:30 a.m.
Re: Where does personal accountability... *NM* *LINK*
karibkween -- Friday, 17 September 2010, at 3:30 p.m.
Re: Where does personal accountability...
three_sixty -- Sunday, 19 September 2010, at 9:46 p.m.
Re: Where does personal accountability...
karibkween -- Monday, 20 September 2010, at 10:57 a.m.
Duly Noted Kween
three_sixty -- Tuesday, 21 September 2010, at 6:18 p.m.
Re: Where does personal accountability... *LINK*
karibkween -- Monday, 4 October 2010, at 5:42 p.m.
Re: Where does personal accountability... *LINK*
karibkween -- Saturday, 16 October 2010, at 5:37 p.m.
Re: Where does personal accountability... *LINK*
karibkween -- Saturday, 16 October 2010, at 5:56 p.m.
Correction
karibkween -- Monday, 18 October 2010, at 11:26 a.m.
Re: Correction
karibkween -- Tuesday, 19 October 2010, at 5:31 p.m.
Chicago sheriff says no to enforcing foreclosures *NM* *LINK*
three_sixty -- Tuesday, 19 October 2010, at 9:07 p.m.
Re: Chicago sheriff says no to enforcing foreclosu
three_sixty -- Tuesday, 19 October 2010, at 9:18 p.m.
Re: Chicago sheriff says no to enforcing foreclosu *LINK*
karibkween -- Wednesday, 20 October 2010, at 12:12 p.m.
Re: Chicago sheriff says no to enforcing foreclosu
three_sixty -- Wednesday, 20 October 2010, at 8:38 p.m.
Re: Chicago sheriff says no to enforcing foreclosu
karibkween -- Friday, 22 October 2010, at 3:39 p.m.
Re: Chicago sheriff says no to enforcing foreclosu *LINK*
karibkween -- Friday, 22 October 2010, at 5:12 p.m.
Re: Chicago sheriff says no to enforcing foreclosu
three_sixty -- Saturday, 23 October 2010, at 9:15 p.m.
Re: Chicago sheriff says no to enforcing foreclosu
karibkween -- Sunday, 24 October 2010, at 1:53 p.m.
Re: Chicago sheriff says no to enforcing foreclosu *LINK*
karibkween -- Wednesday, 20 October 2010, at 3:42 p.m.
Re: Chicago sheriff says no to enforcing foreclosu
karibkween -- Wednesday, 20 October 2010, at 5:18 p.m.
Re: Chicago sheriff says no to enforcing foreclosu *LINK*
karibkween -- Friday, 22 October 2010, at 4:18 p.m.
The No-Evictions Sheriff *NM* *LINK*
three_sixty -- Tuesday, 4 October 2011, at 12:25 p.m.
Re: The No-Evictions Sheriff *LINK*
karibkween -- Tuesday, 4 October 2011, at 2:46 p.m.
Re: The No-Evictions Sheriff *LINK*
karibkween -- Thursday, 13 October 2011, at 4:27 p.m.
"The Remains of the Day" *LINK*
karibkween -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 3:11 p.m.
Is anyone out there listening? *LINK*
karibkween -- Tuesday, 26 October 2010, at 5:34 p.m.
Re: Common Ground? *LINK*
karibkween -- Friday, 21 January 2011, at 2:45 p.m.
Re: Common Ground? *LINK*
karibkween -- Saturday, 29 January 2011, at 6:35 p.m.
re: *NM* *LINK*
three_sixty -- Thursday, 10 February 2011, at 6:46 p.m.
From the Ground Up!
karibkween -- Thursday, 10 February 2011, at 7:29 p.m.
Not sure if this represents a victory *NM* *LINK*
karibkween -- Thursday, 10 February 2011, at 10:56 p.m.
Re: From the Ground Up! *LINK*
karibkween -- Wednesday, 16 February 2011, at 2:59 p.m.
Re: From the Ground Up! *NM* *LINK*
karibkween -- Wednesday, 16 February 2011, at 3:35 p.m.
On the shoulders of Giants *NM* *LINK*
karibkween -- Saturday, 26 March 2011, at 7:31 p.m.
Re: From the Ground Up! *LINK*
karibkween -- Tuesday, 31 May 2011, at 2:57 p.m.
Re: From the Ground Up! *LINK*
karibkween -- Sunday, 28 August 2011, at 3:36 p.m.
Octavius V. Catto *NM* *LINK*
karibkween -- Wednesday, 16 February 2011, at 3:11 p.m.
Re: Octavius V. Catto *NM* *LINK*
karibkween -- Wednesday, 16 February 2011, at 3:17 p.m.
college scholarships for white men *LINK*
karibkween -- Saturday, 26 February 2011, at 8:13 p.m.
Re: college scholarships for white men
three_sixty -- Sunday, 27 February 2011, at 10:08 a.m.
Re: college scholarships for white men
karibkween -- Sunday, 27 February 2011, at 3:31 p.m.
Re: college scholarships for white men
three_sixty -- Monday, 28 February 2011, at 8:08 p.m.
Re: college scholarships for white men
karibkween -- Tuesday, 1 March 2011, at 12:52 p.m.
Re: college scholarships for white men *LINK*
karibkween -- Monday, 25 April 2011, at 6:29 p.m.
Re: college scholarships for white men
karibkween -- Tuesday, 1 March 2011, at 12:55 p.m.
Re: college scholarships for white men *LINK*
three_sixty -- Tuesday, 1 March 2011, at 5:07 p.m.
Re: college scholarships for white men *LINK*
karibkween -- Tuesday, 1 March 2011, at 9:08 p.m.
Re: college scholarships for white men *LINK*
karibkween -- Sunday, 3 July 2011, at 12:16 p.m.
How Wisconsin Could Turn Austerity into Prosperity *NM* *LINK*
three_sixty -- Sunday, 6 March 2011, at 2:29 p.m.
re: *LINK*
three_sixty -- Wednesday, 2 March 2011, at 5:42 p.m.
Re: re:
karibkween -- Wednesday, 2 March 2011, at 5:58 p.m.
yes it is. *NM*
three_sixty -- Thursday, 3 March 2011, at 11:32 a.m.
Re: "Extremism in Connecticut" *LINK*
seshatasefekht -- Sunday, 15 August 2010, at 4:27 p.m.
Re: "Extremism in Connecticut"
seshatasefekht -- Sunday, 15 August 2010, at 4:48 p.m.
Re: "Extremism in Connecticut" *LINK*
karibkween -- Thursday, 19 August 2010, at 11:13 a.m.
Is this a case for M.E.C.A.?
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 21 August 2010, at 7:14 p.m.
Re: Is this a case for M.E.C.A.? *LINK*
karibkween -- Saturday, 18 September 2010, at 9:33 p.m.
Re: "Extremism in Connecticut" *NM* *LINK*
three_sixty -- Thursday, 30 September 2010, at 1:04 p.m.

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