Re: Instinct vs Will
Posted By: NB In Response To: Instinct vs Will (karibkween)
Date: Sunday, 20 September 2009, at 9:08 p.m.
In Response To: Instinct vs Will (karibkween)
If these reasonings are the basis for the debate, why did it get pseudo-scientific for a minute?
"Do you think it is important for people to know the religion, culture, and language of their ancestors?"
"If they do not, do you not see that as a "catastropic" result?"
"Do you not see the "lustful attraction" as being planted psychologically?"
-In many cases, yes I do
"I prefer a natural attraction and not a lustful one. Many destructive things have come due to lust."
-I was using the word "lust" in terms of "natural attraction", I think you knew that. In the deadly sin sense, then you're correct
"When man was under his own vine, was there a lustful attraction for a woman beyond the ones in his community?"
-We aren't attracted to things we have no knowledge of, however the world has become a much smaller place, you are aware of this.
"No, he had a natural attraction to his own kind.
The lustful "attractions" started coming more into play with the introduction of foreign women and culture.
Much of the lust comes from the unknown nature of the foreign woman. She was yet to be "explored"."
-True, but today it is to a much lessor extent, many people are exposed to people of many ethnic backgrounds on a daily basis.
"We see the same going on today with sexual stereotypes amongst the races."
-To an extent that is true
"Because nature allows it doesn't make it beneficial. I tried to show you by giving examples of sterile offspring created from viable reproduction of different "species"."
-I never said it was beneficial, that would again be up to natures yes and no, but I'm sure many of the families of mixed racial background would say it was, as in: they love their children and cherish them.
"Who can say for sure that down syndrone, autism, and other prenatal diseases are not consequences from intermixing gene pools over time?"
-I don't know who can, but what I do know is that those conditions exist across the globe.
"As far as whites being a subspecies of black people, I don't know."
-Neither do I
"I do know that Black people are the original people."
"I could say that any group who came after are carbon copies, attempting to obtain the essence of the original."
-You could say whatever you want
"Its a dun battle with his responces in my opinion, and it just goes to show MY stance, that MOST europeans have NO regard for ones culture."
-I agree with your point about most Europeans, sad but true
"I HIGHLY RESPECT our indigenous brothers n sisters who DONOT let outsiders into their sacred crypts (the WOMB of the female & the teachings); and this is a perfect example. If you notice, our people who tend to lay down with 'others', they have little or no knowledge of themselves, and even if they do, they lack the knowledge of this one important thing...the womb is the GATE for the ancestor of your line to come through, and it is UN-BROKEN from the GREAT GOD ITSELF! no theology here, just indigenous facts. Its a dun deal on this particular post....Peace & Love my family"
-The indigenous fact, as you put it, is the teaching you have accepted. The gate doesn't close, perhaps you're aware of this. What you see as dilution is metaphysically obsolete, and diminishes the ancestors of those of "mixed" racial heritage in a big way. I realize you think that's bogus, that's fine, I'm just putting it out there. The GREAT GOD is omnipotent, no?
"There are many things man's choice has lead him to commit, murder and theft are two that come to mind. Our natural instincts cry out against it, yet we have the power through our will to over ride that instinct; doesn't make any of it right or natural. An animal merely has to sniff another species to know its off limits."
-This contradicts your previous posts, regarding the mating of different animals. Are you suggesting that while the two people copulate they're fighting an internal moral dilemma? I think many would disagree. Stealing and murder don't really go hand in hand with the creation of life, do they?
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