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Re: If you wear the title Ras and don't respect H.

Posted By: gman
Date: Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 8:08 p.m.

In Response To: If you wear the title Ras and don't respect H.I.M. (Derek)

Brudda Derek,

First off, maybe you could define for I what you think "FIYA" means when ones a chant "FIYA"?

Now on to the Bible... when HIM say read with a "clear conscience" and accept its "message"... does that suggest to you that one must read it absolutely literally and accept each and every thing that is in there?

I couldn't throw stones at people with a clear conscience, unless they throwing stones at I first or they done something particularly brutal to I/my fam/loved ones/people.

I couldn't sacrifice animals with a clear conscience.

I couldn't go into a next man land and kill every man, woman and child there with a clear conscience. (Nat Turner could kill every SLAVEHOLDING whitey within a 50-mile radius with a clear conscience though, cos he knew he had to do it, and he spared the lives of the poor white family who owned no slaves and in his words "didn't think any better of themselves than they do of us".)

I couldn't tell a woman she mustn't speak in the congregation with a clear conscience. (Especially when, if I was to keep a tally, I've probably received more valuable lessons in life from woman than from man, overall).

Yes I accept with a clear conscience the overall message of the Bible.

Is the same overall message of humanity's other holy books, and is the same overall message we receive if we just pay heed to JAH creation. As IanI, Ayinde and others have pointed out on this board.

That don't mean I accept every single message that you could get out of the Bible. The overall message is universal and timeless. 10 Commandments for example (either coinciding with, or excerpted from, the 42 Negative Confessions of Ma'at from Kemet) are simple commonsense guidelines for living together peaceably as a community.

But many smaller, specific messages are not for all times and all places.

That is the point I was making with Nat Turner. In his context, killing all the white men, women and children in the vicinity (apart from the non-slaveholders) was not wrong.

Does that mean I can go out there today and start killing off white people??? Of course not.

I recommend you check the thread "Straying Away from the Bible" which is in the "In the Bag" section at the top of the page.

Blessed Love RASTAFARI

Messages In This Thread

ADAM AND EVE, THE BIBLE, SEXISM, AND RASTAFARI.
Ras Tyehimba -- Wednesday, 19 February 2003, at 10:13 p.m.
Re: ADAM AND EVE, THE BIBLE, SEXISM, AND RASTAFARI
rootsie -- Wednesday, 19 February 2003, at 10:34 p.m.
Re: ADAM AND EVE, THE BIBLE, SEXISM, AND RASTAFARI
Makeda Blake Hannah -- Wednesday, 19 February 2003, at 10:36 p.m.
the old testment is not king james
Bongo Icall -- Saturday, 1 March 2003, at 1:23 p.m.
Re: the old testment is not king james
gman -- Sunday, 2 March 2003, at 8:51 p.m.
If you wear the title Ras and don't respect H.I.M.
Derek -- Wednesday, 5 March 2003, at 11:22 p.m.
Re: If you wear the title Ras and don't respect H.
gman -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 8:08 p.m.
Re: If you wear the title Ras and don't respect H.
gman -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 8:09 p.m.
Mooooore WORD SOUNDS AND POWAAAH! Give thanks! *NM*
Iyahmin!!! Ntrally from da land of Punt!!! -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 8:38 p.m.
Ras Obadiah
Ras Tyehimba -- Tuesday, 4 March 2003, at 7:44 p.m.
Re: ADAM AND EVE, THE BIBLE, SEXISM, AND RASTAFARI
Iyahmin!!! Ntrally from da land of Punt!!! -- Thursday, 20 February 2003, at 3:48 a.m.
Re: ADAM AND EVE, THE BIBLE, SEXISM, AND RASTAFARI
selassieilive -- Thursday, 20 February 2003, at 8:56 a.m.
BLESSED LOVE - KEEP UP THE STRUGGLE *NM*
Ras Tyehimba -- Thursday, 20 February 2003, at 7:46 p.m.
Re: ADAM AND EVE, THE BIBLE, SEXISM, AND RASTAFARI
IanI -- Friday, 21 February 2003, at 8:07 a.m.
IF U READ THE.............
Hansum Tefari -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 3:21 p.m.
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karen naphtali -- Friday, 21 February 2003, at 11:33 a.m.
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selassieilive -- Friday, 21 February 2003, at 11:36 a.m.
MORE FIYA 4 D MALE SUPREMACISTS!!!!! *NM*
gman -- Friday, 21 February 2003, at 1:22 p.m.
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ROOTSWOMAN -- Friday, 21 February 2003, at 4:20 p.m.
Re: ADAM AND EVE, THE BIBLE, SEXISM, AND RASTAFARI
sis naphtali -- Friday, 21 February 2003, at 6:08 p.m.
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Ras Jon Falkowski -- Friday, 21 February 2003, at 6:13 p.m.
AGREE WITH THIS POST 100%
Ras Joe -- Saturday, 22 February 2003, at 10:44 a.m.
Re: ADAM AND EVE, THE BIBLE, SEXISM, AND RASTAFARI
Summer -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 5:44 a.m.
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Ras IDI -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 2:44 p.m.
Black Power !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ras Tyehimba -- Friday, 28 February 2003, at 4:24 p.m.
Black Liberation, Jah Bless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *NM*
Ras Joe -- Saturday, 1 March 2003, at 12:03 a.m.
Yes Ras Tyehimba SPEEEAAAK!!
Iyahmin!!! Ntrally from da land of Punt!!! -- Saturday, 1 March 2003, at 3:11 a.m.
Re: Yes Ras Tyehimba SPEEEAAAK!!
ROOTSWOMAN -- Monday, 3 March 2003, at 1:59 p.m.
Re: Yes Ras Tyehimba SPEEEAAAK!!
Ras Jon Falkowski -- Tuesday, 4 March 2003, at 10:52 p.m.
Re: ADAM AND EVE, THE BIBLE, SEXISM, AND RASTAFARI *LINK*
SisKemba -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 7:19 a.m.
Re: ADAM AND EVE, THE BIBLE, SEXISM, AND RASTAFARI
lili -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 3:40 p.m.
Re: ADAM AND EVE, THE BIBLE, SEXISM, AND RASTAFARI
ROOTSWOMAN -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 3:41 p.m.
Re: ADAM AND EVE, THE BIBLE, SEXISM, AND RASTAFARI
ROOTSWOMAN -- Thursday, 6 March 2003, at 3:43 p.m.

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