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Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr

Posted By: selassielive
Date: Friday, 15 June 2007, at 12:41 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr (rasi)

"Beyond this, all control, use and investment of money should be the prerogative of the state with the concurrent authority of the people."

Greetings Rasi
Obviously Garvey was not talking about Capitalism as it is commonly defined because capitalism involves private individuals/groups/corporations. The good of the people is not determined by the people.

Baba Marcus is talking about capitalism and its common usage of the term:

"Capitalism generally refers to an economic system in which the means of production are mostly privately[1] owned and operated for profit, and in which investments, distribution, income, production and pricing of goods and services are determined through the operation of a free market. It is usually considered to involve the right of individuals and groups of individuals acting as "legal persons" or corporations to trade capital goods, labor, land and money "

~from wikipedia

Garvey may have been refering to a type of state capitalism which is also referred to as a form of socialism.

"State capitalism, in its classic meaning, is a private capitalist economy under state control. This term was often used to describe the controlled economies of the great powers in the First World War.[1] This term is also used by some heterodox economists to describe a society wherein the productive forces are owned and run by a state in a capitalist way, even if such a state chooses to call itself socialist...state capitalism is usually defined in the latter sense: as a social system combining capitalism — the wage system of producing and appropriating surplus value — with ownership by a state apparatus. By that definition, a state capitalist country is a country where the government controls the economy and essentially acts like a single giant corporation."

~ from wikipedia

Peace

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ras marcus -- Monday, 11 June 2007, at 10:07 p.m.
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rasi -- Tuesday, 12 June 2007, at 12:58 p.m.
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Oshun Auset -- Tuesday, 12 June 2007, at 3:49 p.m.
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rosalind -- Wednesday, 13 June 2007, at 9:31 a.m.
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discipleofthenile -- Wednesday, 13 June 2007, at 1:11 p.m.
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rosalind -- Wednesday, 13 June 2007, at 1:32 p.m.
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rasi -- Wednesday, 13 June 2007, at 12:56 p.m.
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discipleofthenile -- Wednesday, 13 June 2007, at 1:16 p.m.
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rasi -- Wednesday, 13 June 2007, at 1:49 p.m.
Capitalism Preserves the "State" and "Classes"
sabbah -- Wednesday, 13 June 2007, at 3:54 p.m.
Re: Capitalism Preserves the "State" and "Classes" *LINK*
rasi -- Wednesday, 13 June 2007, at 5:31 p.m.
Re: Capitalism Preserves the "State" and "Classes"
sabbah -- Wednesday, 13 June 2007, at 6:16 p.m.
Re: Capitalism Preserves the "State" and "Classes"
rasi -- Wednesday, 13 June 2007, at 6:42 p.m.
Re: Capitalism Preserves the "State" and "Classes"
sabbah -- Thursday, 14 June 2007, at 4:04 a.m.
Sabbah and Rasi... *LINK*
Oshun Auset -- Thursday, 14 June 2007, at 4:44 p.m.
Typo
Oshun Auset -- Thursday, 14 June 2007, at 4:52 p.m.
Re: Sabbah and Rasi...
rasi -- Thursday, 14 June 2007, at 5:26 p.m.
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sabbah -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 4:28 a.m.
Re: Capitalism Preserves the "State" and "Classes"
jahchanah -- Monday, 18 June 2007, at 4:19 p.m.
Re: Capitalism Preserves the "State" and "Classes"
sabbah -- Tuesday, 19 June 2007, at 1:29 p.m.
Re: True Unity Must Be Cultivated by The African R
selassielive -- Wednesday, 13 June 2007, at 3:55 p.m.
Re: True Unity Must Be Cultivated by The African R
rasi -- Wednesday, 13 June 2007, at 5:22 p.m.
Re: True Unity Must Be Cultivated by The African R
selassielive -- Wednesday, 13 June 2007, at 5:52 p.m.
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rasi -- Wednesday, 13 June 2007, at 6:28 p.m.
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selassielive -- Wednesday, 13 June 2007, at 7:19 p.m.
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rasi -- Thursday, 14 June 2007, at 6:05 p.m.
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Oshun Auset -- Thursday, 14 June 2007, at 7:39 p.m.
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rasi -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 10:48 a.m.
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Oshun Auset -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 12:23 p.m.
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selassielive -- Tuesday, 12 June 2007, at 4:13 p.m.
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rasi -- Tuesday, 12 June 2007, at 11:11 p.m.
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ras marcus -- Tuesday, 12 June 2007, at 10:33 p.m.
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Akymanah -- Saturday, 16 June 2007, at 4:58 p.m.
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ras marcus -- Saturday, 16 June 2007, at 10:11 p.m.
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Fyahman -- Tuesday, 12 June 2007, at 1:37 p.m.
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Ras Heru -- Tuesday, 12 June 2007, at 10:49 p.m.
The State Of The African Union.
ras marcus -- Wednesday, 13 June 2007, at 9:25 p.m.
Re: True Unity Must Be Cultivated by The African R
Oshun Auset -- Thursday, 14 June 2007, at 7:26 p.m.
last post for Rasi *NM*
Oshun Auset -- Thursday, 14 June 2007, at 7:27 p.m.
Re: last post for Rasi
rasi -- Thursday, 14 June 2007, at 10:21 p.m.
Re: last post for Rasi
Oshun Auset -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 2:06 p.m.
Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Profit
ras marcus -- Thursday, 14 June 2007, at 9:28 p.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
rasi -- Thursday, 14 June 2007, at 10:36 p.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
selassielive -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 12:41 a.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
discipleofthenile -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 12:42 a.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
Priest Asukile Adigun Adofo -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 5:50 a.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
discipleofthenile -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 7:04 a.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
Priest Asukile Adigun Adofo -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 11:06 a.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
discipleofthenile -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 3:23 p.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
Priest Asukile Adigun Adofo -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 7:33 p.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
discipleofthenile -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 7:39 p.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
Priest Asukile Adigun Adofo -- Saturday, 16 June 2007, at 9:32 a.m.
OH MY GOD...HE'S YELLING...OH DEAR
discipleofthenile -- Saturday, 16 June 2007, at 11:13 a.m.
Priest Adofo and Disciple...
rosalind -- Saturday, 16 June 2007, at 12:49 p.m.
Let Us not Argue, Let Us Just Reason ...
ras marcus -- Saturday, 16 June 2007, at 3:48 p.m.
Re: Let Us not Argue, Let Us Just Reason ...
Ras Heru -- Saturday, 16 June 2007, at 4:53 p.m.
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ras marcus -- Saturday, 16 June 2007, at 10:37 p.m.
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selassielive -- Sunday, 17 June 2007, at 12:38 a.m.
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ras marcus -- Sunday, 17 June 2007, at 9:49 p.m.
Re: Let Us not Argue, Let Us Just Reason ...
selassielive -- Sunday, 17 June 2007, at 10:26 p.m.
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ras marcus -- Monday, 18 June 2007, at 4:18 p.m.
Re: Priest Adofo and Disciple...
Priest Asukile Adigun Adofo -- Sunday, 17 June 2007, at 8:49 a.m.
Priest Asukile Adigun Adofo...
rosalind -- Sunday, 17 June 2007, at 10:19 a.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
selassielive -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 9:26 a.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
rosalind -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 10:00 a.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
selassielive -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 10:30 a.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
sabbah -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 12:09 p.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
rosalind -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 2:40 p.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
rasi -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 10:13 a.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
selassielive -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 10:43 a.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
rasi -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 10:50 a.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
selassielive -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 10:54 a.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
sabbah -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 11:53 a.m.
Re: Capitalism Is To Under Pay Workers And Keep Pr
Oshun Auset -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 1:04 p.m.
Nicely stated Sistren! *NM*
rosalind -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 2:52 p.m.
word/power *NM*
discipleofthenile -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 3:28 p.m.
Greed And Dishonesty Nourishes Capitalism
ras marcus -- Friday, 15 June 2007, at 11:51 p.m.

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