ANCIENT AFRICANS KNEW OF EUROPEAN 'NEANDERTHALS"
Posted By: Pianke Nubiyang In Response To: Re: Is the neanderthal also descended from African (Eja)
Date: Thursday, 31 August 2006, at 3:12 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Is the neanderthal also descended from African (Eja)
Ancient Africans had a very strong idea of people who were descended from Neanderthals and in some cases, althought the Neanderthal is said to have disappeared about 30,000 years ago, 'throwbacks' (just like the family in Mexico who produce males with hair all over their bodies) do occur.
The Egyptians and Cushites clearly referred to Europeans as 'troglodytes.' As for your accuasations about 'mixing' Europeans ideas while being against the TRICK OF USING BLACKS TO RACIALLY MIX TILL WE DISAPPEAR OR ARE TOO CONFUSED TO UNITE AND THRIVE (AS IF HAPPENING). I get you point, but psychological mixing and knowing what the ancients recognized are two different things.
Europeans may not remember 'Neanderthals' in their historic memories, but people close to Neanderthals are found in the ancient memory of Africans particularly in Egyptian history.
It is Africans who also point out that rather than humans coming from apes, some humans actually regressed to apes during the long, long period of human history. If one looks at the fetus of an ape (as was shown on some science channel), one sees it looks strikingly similar to a newborn baby.
I'll also say that just because someone comes to Race and History and pretends to be one thing, does not mean that they are being true. People will try to refute anything being said by trying to slyly beat around the bush. However, it is when an issue gets deep down in the consciousness and rattles many preconceived notions that reaction becomes rapid and the response is filled with energy.
Neanderthals did not begin in Europe. They began in Africa and the term 'Neanderthal' is inaccurate to describe these humanoids who were Blackskinned and smoothskinned and inhabited the Sahara. In fact, there is some people who believe that the people called 'African Neanderthal' who existed about 80,000 to 100,000 years ago were in fact humans EXACTLY LIKE SOME OF THE AFRICANS OF THE SAHARA (LIKE THE ANUAK AND TIBBOU) or like the Australian Aborigine, the Tasmanians and the Munda of South India. These are all branches of the Black race and they resembled groups of Negroid or Indo-Negroid and Negro-Australoid people existing today.
Many years ago, a group of Negro-Australoid people were found in Northern Japan. They look exactly like Australian Aborigines and Black Africans. However, it seems that sometime between the 1700's to the early 1900's that group became bleached with Caucasian and Mongol. Today, many look like Caucasians. The same thing is happening today in Australia and it also happened in Tasmania, where the original Tasmanians were Negroid/Black people with kinky hair. Today, they are all Caucasoid in appearance.
So, the 'Neanderthal' idea is not necessarily a European idea. The term 'Neanderthal' was used by Europeans because they found some remains in the Neander Valley of Germany in Europe. However the fact is for many African anthropologists and scientists people related to Africa's Kong, Kwa (Pygmies) Anu (prehistoric Sahara Africans who migrated all the way to Japan, Siberia and the Americas) were in Europe at least by 50,000 B.C. That group was in India by 60,000 B.C. (AND SOME ARE STILL THERE TODAY - IN FACT, India still has the prehistoric Negrito type who are 100 percent racially pure with one gene found only in Africa as its origins).
The racist attitude that some people from India seem to worship comes from the barbarian and nomadic tribes who infiltrated India about 1700 B.C. from the North. India's Southern population particularly in the South and South East are of East African and Sahara African origins. Their genes show them to be African and so does their facial features. That particular strain of Black once lived in much of Europe and it was that strain of Black, the Pygmoid type, and a tall, robust Negroid type with kinky/frizzly hair who dominated all of Europe before the Ice Age and before the climatic changes brought about the conditions that led to lightening of skin.
It does not take human skin long to change color and reduce to pink. Tie a piece of plaster around the finger and see what happens, it gets light in color. Imagine an environment like Antartica with no sunlight, snow and the only place to live is caves. The peole living in that environment will develop light skin.
In the case of Asian Mongoloids, here is a strong example of people who were once Black to 'yellowish-brown' Africans from Congo/Southern Africa region changing in complection to become lighter, hair changing or remaining the same to adapt to a cold and icy OUTDOORS CLIMATE, and yet, having the same identical facial features as Africans in Southern Africa. How can that be? Did the Mongol come from the KonG-San and Bantu People?
That seems to be the case because after years of studying the origins of the Chinese people, Chinese scientists found that Chinese actually originated in Africa. However, today's Chinese, Japanese and Koreans are very lightskinned an have straight, lanky hair. Yet, about 50,000 years ago, the prehistoric ancestors of the Mongol Chinese did resemble AFRICA'S KONG-SAN, WHO WERE FOUND ALL OVER THE WORLD, INCLUDING THE AMERICAS. The Navajo of New Mexico has 20 percent of the genes ( Cde ) from the Kong-San of South Africa. That gene is also found in the Chinese. Added to that, a gene that came from West/Central africa called the 'M' gene is found to be the gene that 'mutated' in Central Asia and spread to East Asia.
As for the Europeans, as mentioned before, MOST EUROPEANS HAVE AN AFRICAN CHROMOSOME AT 75 PERCENT...there is a chromosome not found in Africa and is found among only 5 percent of Blacks, but is high in Caucasians and Mongoloids. That chromosome may be responsible for certain characteristics in whites and Mongoloids that give them certain features.
Let me also say that in India, the Chinese and Japanese are referred to as 'Negro-faced,' by some Punjabis ( who are an alien race in India because in ancient times the region from Afganistan to Bangladesh and all the way IN A WIDE BELT TO THE MELANESIAN ISLANDS WAS INHABITED BY NEGROID/BLACK PEOPLE).
So why do many Mongoloid people and many Indo-Negroid, Negrito, Austric, Negro-Australoid and some Mongol Indians of South America and old California have Negroid features? These are the groups that migrated from Africa at the earliest point and retained Africoid features while the developed new features.
As mentioned, all races are composed of Black chromosomes/genes at a majority. Whites have 75 percent of a particular Negro/Africoid 'alu' while Asians have 60 percent of that same alu and Blacks/Negroids whether in Africa or in India or the South Pacific or the Americas range from 90 percent to 100 percent of that particular alu.
Asians and Caucasians have equal amounts of an alu that only 5 percent of Blacks/Negroids have, while at the same time, both Asians and Whites have lots of the Black/African alu even when they are very remote from Black people and have never known Blacks to live among them in recent history. In the land area from Turkey to Western China, there is a mixture of 'alu' chromosomes from the African and the European.
It is therefore one reason why when a European and African has children the African genes dominate.
When an African and Asian Mongol has children, DUE TO THE SIMILARITIES IN FACIAL FEATURES (BECAUSE AFRICANS HAVE A WIDE VARIETY OF FEATURES AND GENETIC TYPES), the child looks like both parents, but the Asian fetures show to many of us, because we do not realize that in Africa, what we call 'Asian' or 'Mongoloid' features are common -- high cheekbones, epicantus fold and such features - see http://community.webtv.net/pabarton - More over, the Asian has about 60 percent African/Negro 'alu' (chromosomes) but that still a majority.
THE OTHER CHROMOSOMES IN EUROPEANS AND ASIANS
Europeans and Asians have another chromosome or 'alu' (Scientific American magazine), that alu or chromosome is found in EQUAL AMOUNTS IN BOTH ASIANS AND EUROPEANS.
The 'wannabe' 'copy' racists of India are the most Negroid of any group on earth after Africans, Melanesians and Aboriginal people (who are a form of Negroid and originated in East Africa, where people with the same features still exist today - LIKE THE TIBBOU).
So, the so-called 'Neanderthal' may not have been originally a hairy, pale-skinned humaniod. The Neanderthal may have been an African type, because about 100,000 B.C., Africans were already migrating to other parts of the world and were in the homosapien form.
We must keep in mind that a group of people called Cro-magnon (from Southern Europe/France) are the first 'lightskinned' homosapiens who came directly from the African Blacks who migrated from Africa and from India into Europe after the Ice melted away and there was room to travel. After these African entered Europe, another Ice Age hit Europe. This was the last Ice Age that occurred between 40,000 years to about 15,000 years ago.
See some references, "Susu and Susunomics," pub. by http://www.AuthorHouse.com
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