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Re: Is the neanderthal also descended from African

Posted By: Eja
Date: Tuesday, 29 August 2006, at 4:38 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Is the neanderthal also descended from African *LINK* (Pianke Nubiyang)

Here are the questions and answers I used to build my view on this matter :

1 : Do the remains found in germany's neander valley belong to one who originated from Africa?
Answer would be "Yes" if remains - EXACTLY like the ones found in europe - were to be found somewhere else in Africa.

2 : Do the bones found in germany's neander valley belong to one whose descendants still walk this Earth?
Answer : "Yes."
By thier own admission and by thier resemblance to the ones whose remains were first found in that valley.

Simple questions. Plain enough answers.

Pianke Nubiyang, you say : "The scientific findings show Neanderthals originated in Africa. However, the Neanderthals of Africa were of hte African type. They also existed before the European Neanderthal."

Whose 'scientific' findings showed the neanderthal to be from Africa? And is'nt it strange that this so-called neanderthal is not exactly like the one first found in germany's neander valley?

'Not too hairy' and 'not pale-skinned' does not sound neanderthal to me. Sounds in fact like some ancient African's bones were dug up and labelled "neanderthal".

Would'nt be the first time such a fraud was perpetuated either.

The motive of the non-African who claims to be from an 'African Eve' is clear enough. What I cannot see is why any African would be assisting them to keep alive these bogus linkages. Why is it so important to some Black people that the caucasian is shown to be one DIRECTLY descended from a Black African? What do these 'white' people have that some Black people find so hard to let go?

I will buy none of this fake 'science' and conjecture. I have no reason to.

And another two questions : Why is it important for Africans that we accept the neanderthal (and it's descendants) to be from us? How will this acceptance (PRACTICALLY) enrich our lives?

I said, how will it PRACTICALLY enrich our lives? What will we get from them, once we call them 'brother' that we did not get when we called them 'master'?

How will things change for the better? Could it be that this is the realisation whose lack has been keeping us back? Have we been suffering because we do not love the 'white' enough? Because we have not accepted with open arms what mini-Neely calls the 'procdigal ones'. Our poor abandoned 'de-pigmented children'.

Or could the opposite be true? Could it be that we are where we find ourselves because we will not stop mixing up? Ones talk of mixing as if it were a mere physical act. Ones talk against it, yet they will mix thier ideas and thier icepts with what has come out of these same 'whites'.

Mixing up your icepts with thiers is no different from sleeping with them. Both activities give birth to what is neither one or the other. What (through time) has always found it's own determined purpose to serve.

And, one of the biggest fallacies used to support this mixing up of icepts is the idea that because ancient Africans (allegedly) originated everything, then it is allright for us to take whatever we want, adopt whatever we want as our guiding principle. Because they all came from us.

How is this different from the ones who will sleep with whatever they want because all sex and all love is the same. Because "love has no colour"?

No, not everything originated with Africans. Better we learn what is ours and adapt it if neccesary to serve us today. Better that than to keep calling a dog a cat and then pretending to be deaf when the 'cat' barks.

The whole "Out of Africa" myth is a trap. A minefield that is also a long term investment. The sooner ones see it as it really is the better.

Not everything came out of Africa. The pride an African has in self should not be dependant on this idea. We do not need to be the originators of everything. There is enough, in what we can prove through our own efforts, for us to have an adequate self-esteem.

Messages In This Thread

Is there one human race?
Leslie -- Saturday, 19 August 2006, at 1:10 p.m.
Re: Is there one human race?
discipleofthenile -- Saturday, 19 August 2006, at 1:36 p.m.
Re: Is there one human race?
Eja -- Saturday, 19 August 2006, at 6:20 p.m.
Dissect the wors Hue-Man
Ras Heru -- Saturday, 19 August 2006, at 9:53 p.m.
Re: Dissect the wors Hue-Man
mighty sparrow -- Wednesday, 13 September 2006, at 10:41 p.m.
What about Nuclear DNA? *LINK*
karibkween -- Thursday, 14 September 2006, at 10:39 a.m.
Correction *LINK*
karibkween -- Thursday, 14 September 2006, at 10:49 a.m.
Neanderthal- The Rebirth
karibkween -- Monday, 21 August 2006, at 12:54 p.m.
GENOME PROJECT SOLVED MYSTRY *LINK*
Pianke Nubiyang -- Monday, 28 August 2006, at 7:24 p.m.
Is the neanderthal also descended from Africans? *NM*
Eja -- Tuesday, 29 August 2006, at 12:46 a.m.
Re: Is the neanderthal also descended from African *LINK*
Pianke Nubiyang -- Tuesday, 29 August 2006, at 2:25 p.m.
Re: Is the neanderthal also descended from African
Eja -- Tuesday, 29 August 2006, at 4:38 p.m.
Re: Is the neanderthal also descended from African
gman -- Wednesday, 30 August 2006, at 7:42 a.m.
Re: Is the neanderthal also descended from African
Eja -- Wednesday, 30 August 2006, at 12:06 p.m.
Re: Is the neanderthal also descended from African
selassielive -- Wednesday, 30 August 2006, at 12:57 p.m.
Re: Is the neanderthal also descended from African
gman -- Wednesday, 30 August 2006, at 2:10 p.m.
Re: Is the neanderthal also descended from African
gman -- Wednesday, 30 August 2006, at 2:05 p.m.
Only human that came out of Africa was the African
Eja -- Wednesday, 30 August 2006, at 4:21 p.m.
Re: Only human that came out of Africa was the Afr
gman -- Wednesday, 30 August 2006, at 5:13 p.m.
Re: Only human that came out of Africa was the Afr
Eja -- Thursday, 31 August 2006, at 12:50 p.m.
Re: Only human that came out of Africa was the Afr
selassielive -- Thursday, 31 August 2006, at 2:50 p.m.
Re: Only human that came out of Africa was the Afr
sabbah -- Thursday, 31 August 2006, at 3:21 p.m.
Re: Only human that came out of Africa was the Afr
Eja -- Friday, 1 September 2006, at 1:59 p.m.
Re: Only human that came out of Africa was the Afr
sabbah -- Friday, 1 September 2006, at 3:17 p.m.
Re: Only human that came out of Africa was the Afr
InIdrumma -- Thursday, 31 August 2006, at 4:06 p.m.
Re: Only human that came out of Africa was the Afr
gman -- Saturday, 2 September 2006, at 11:58 a.m.
gman, hotep to the self/truth/power *NM*
discipleofthenile -- Saturday, 2 September 2006, at 12:02 p.m.
epiphany: COLORISM
seshatasefekht -- Wednesday, 30 August 2006, at 3:21 p.m.
ANCIENT AFRICANS KNEW OF EUROPEAN 'NEANDERTHALS"
Pianke Nubiyang -- Thursday, 31 August 2006, at 3:12 a.m.
Re: ANCIENT AFRICANS KNEW OF EUROPEAN 'NEANDERTHAL
Eja -- Saturday, 2 September 2006, at 12:48 a.m.
Neanderthals, Red Hair and Migrations
kristine -- Saturday, 2 September 2006, at 2:35 p.m.
Re: Neanderthals, Red Hair and Migrations
Eja -- Wednesday, 6 September 2006, at 3:58 a.m.
Re: Neanderthals, Red Hair and Migrations
seshatasefekht -- Wednesday, 6 September 2006, at 8:38 a.m.
Mural of the Races *LINK*
karibkween -- Thursday, 7 September 2006, at 5:19 p.m.
Race defined
Leslie -- Sunday, 20 August 2006, at 11:51 a.m.
Re: Race defined
discipleofthenile -- Sunday, 20 August 2006, at 12:24 p.m.
Re: Race defined *LINK*
Leslie -- Sunday, 20 August 2006, at 1:16 p.m.
Yeah, thats what I meant, hotep
discipleofthenile -- Sunday, 20 August 2006, at 1:25 p.m.
Re: Race defined
Ras Heru -- Sunday, 20 August 2006, at 2:20 p.m.
Re: Race defined
discipleofthenile -- Monday, 21 August 2006, at 9:01 a.m.
Re: Race defined
Leslie -- Monday, 21 August 2006, at 10:53 a.m.
Re: Race defined
Ras Heru -- Monday, 21 August 2006, at 12:46 p.m.
Re: Race defined
Leslie -- Monday, 21 August 2006, at 1:31 p.m.
Re: Race defined
Ras Heru -- Tuesday, 22 August 2006, at 12:36 p.m.
Re: Race defined
Leslie -- Tuesday, 22 August 2006, at 7:41 p.m.
Re: Race defined
Ras Heru -- Saturday, 26 August 2006, at 12:38 a.m.
Re: Race defined
Leslie -- Monday, 28 August 2006, at 2:15 p.m.
Re: Race defined
Ras Heru -- Tuesday, 29 August 2006, at 5:58 p.m.
Re: Race defined
Leslie -- Wednesday, 30 August 2006, at 10:42 a.m.
Re: Race defined
Ras Heru -- Friday, 1 September 2006, at 9:27 p.m.
Re: Is there one human race?
Leslie -- Tuesday, 22 August 2006, at 10:59 a.m.
Re: Is there one human race?
Ras Heru -- Tuesday, 22 August 2006, at 12:11 p.m.
Lilith's Curse *LINK*
karibkween -- Tuesday, 29 August 2006, at 8:48 a.m.
Re: Lilith's Curse
seshatasefekht -- Tuesday, 29 August 2006, at 9:01 a.m.
Re: Lilith's Curse
karibkween -- Tuesday, 29 August 2006, at 9:30 a.m.
Re: Is there one human race?
seshatasefekht -- Tuesday, 29 August 2006, at 9:23 a.m.
Re: Is there one human race? *LINK*
Julian Pembroke Steptoe -- Monday, 18 September 2006, at 4:56 p.m.
Re: Is there one human race?
Ras Mahal Levi -- Saturday, 30 September 2006, at 3:51 p.m.
So tru rasta
InIdrumma -- Sunday, 1 October 2006, at 9:34 p.m.

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