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Re: Choice/Nature

Posted By: selassielive
Date: Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 9:51 a.m.

In Response To: Choice/Nature (discipleofthenile)

Ites I-ciple.

I agree that it is choice or the perception of choice that is InI downfall.

If the I had included the first sentence in the quote then there may be a better overstanding of what I am saying.

"If good and evil existed unto themselves, then free will would not make any difference. Good and Evil would still exist regardless of whether one has a choice to commit 'good' or 'bad/evil' acts. "

IF good and evil existed unto themselves, independent of other variables, then choice would not make a difference, that is assuming we really have choice.

They would still exist...nah true?

But it is the actions (causes) that create consequences (effects), which InI perceive as good and bad/evil.

So I agree with what u are saying.

I was merely trying to answer seshata's question about free will and whether it is really 'free will' and how it relates to good and bad.

I really dont know the TRUTH about these epistemological questions...only my version of the truth as I sight it.

Give thanks

Messages In This Thread

DOES EVIL EXIST?
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 2:20 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
selassielive -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 8:52 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
discipleofthenile -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 9:15 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
selassielive -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 9:28 a.m.

I see it but..
discipleofthenile -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 10:08 a.m.

Re: I see it but..
selassielive -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 10:40 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
karibkween -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 1:05 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
three_sixty -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 1:37 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
three_sixty -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 1:57 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
selassielive -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 2:17 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
karibkween -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 3:50 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
selassielive -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 5:48 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
karibkween -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 6:22 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
selassielive -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 6:38 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
karibkween -- Tuesday, 14 March 2006, at 11:26 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
selassielive -- Tuesday, 14 March 2006, at 12:23 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
karibkween -- Tuesday, 14 March 2006, at 3:08 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
selassielive -- Tuesday, 14 March 2006, at 3:29 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
karibkween -- Tuesday, 14 March 2006, at 4:51 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
selassielive -- Tuesday, 14 March 2006, at 5:50 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
karibkween -- Tuesday, 14 March 2006, at 6:08 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
seshatasefekht -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 9:48 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
three_sixty -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 1:33 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
discipleofthenile -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 1:44 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
three_sixty -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 2:12 p.m.

good point *NM*
discipleofthenile -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 2:22 p.m.

DOES EVIL EXIST?
Ras Heru -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 5:02 p.m.

hotep ras heru
discipleofthenile -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 5:25 p.m.

Re: hotep ras heru
Ras Heru -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 6:07 p.m.

...but scared to sight it!!! *NM*
discipleofthenile -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 5:27 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
selassielive -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 6:31 p.m.

give thankhs 4 word/sound *NM*
Ras Heru -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 7:43 p.m.

Evil in Taoism
selassielive -- Tuesday, 14 March 2006, at 8:21 a.m.

seen *NM*
discipleofthenile -- Tuesday, 14 March 2006, at 9:02 a.m.

what is man: chaos or order?
seshatasefekht -- Tuesday, 14 March 2006, at 9:33 a.m.

Re: what is man: chaos or order?
three_sixty -- Tuesday, 14 March 2006, at 9:40 a.m.

ages of 'chaos' or 'order'? *NM* *LINK*
seshatasefekht -- Tuesday, 14 March 2006, at 9:44 a.m.

Re: what is man: chaos or order?
selassielive -- Tuesday, 14 March 2006, at 10:58 a.m.

Re: what is man: chaos or order?
livelyup -- Tuesday, 14 March 2006, at 7:10 p.m.

Re: what is man: chaos or order?
seshatasefekht -- Tuesday, 14 March 2006, at 10:01 p.m.

Re: what is man: chaos or order?
selassielive -- Tuesday, 14 March 2006, at 10:44 p.m.

Re: what is man: chaos or order?
seshatasefekht -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 8:41 a.m.

Re: what is man: chaos or order?
selassielive -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 9:16 a.m.

Choice/Nature
discipleofthenile -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 9:34 a.m.

Re: Choice/Nature
selassielive -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 9:51 a.m.

hotep, my oversight
discipleofthenile -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 10:17 a.m.

Do animals/plants have choice...are they judged? *NM*
discipleofthenile -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 9:38 a.m.

Re: Do animals/plants have choice...are they judge
seshatasefekht -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 10:12 a.m.

Re: Do animals/plants have choice...are they judge
discipleofthenile -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 10:21 a.m.

Re: Do animals/plants have choice...are they judge
livelyup -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 8:39 p.m.

Re: Do animals/plants have choice...are they judge
discipleofthenile -- Thursday, 16 March 2006, at 8:30 a.m.

seen... *NM*
livelyup -- Thursday, 16 March 2006, at 10:18 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
three_sixty -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 10:16 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
selassielive -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 10:39 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
three_sixty -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 11:08 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
selassielive -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 11:16 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
selassielive -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 11:38 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
three_sixty -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 11:46 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
livelyup -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 8:42 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
three_sixty -- Thursday, 16 March 2006, at 9:03 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
livelyup -- Thursday, 16 March 2006, at 10:23 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST? *LINK*
three_sixty -- Friday, 17 March 2006, at 9:26 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
livelyup -- Monday, 20 March 2006, at 6:45 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
three_sixty -- Monday, 20 March 2006, at 9:15 p.m.

typos corrected, my apologies
three_sixty -- Monday, 20 March 2006, at 9:20 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
three_sixty -- Monday, 20 March 2006, at 9:33 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
livelyup -- Monday, 20 March 2006, at 10:40 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
three_sixty -- Tuesday, 21 March 2006, at 8:27 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
livelyup -- Wednesday, 22 March 2006, at 12:00 a.m.

seth vs ausar? *NM*
seshatasefekht -- Wednesday, 22 March 2006, at 9:54 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
three_sixty -- Wednesday, 22 March 2006, at 10:40 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST? *NM* *LINK*
three_sixty -- Tuesday, 21 March 2006, at 8:27 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
livelyup -- Wednesday, 22 March 2006, at 12:05 a.m.

sethian vs ausarian? *NM*
seshatasefekht -- Wednesday, 22 March 2006, at 9:55 a.m.

Re: sethian vs ausarian?
livelyup -- Wednesday, 22 March 2006, at 9:26 p.m.

Re: sethian vs ausarian?
seshatasefekht -- Wednesday, 22 March 2006, at 10:02 p.m.

Re: sethian vs ausarian? *LINK*
livelyup -- Thursday, 23 March 2006, at 2:15 a.m.

Re: sethian vs ausarian? *LINK*
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 23 March 2006, at 10:03 a.m.

Re: sethian vs ausarian?
livelyup -- Thursday, 23 March 2006, at 10:10 p.m.

Re: sethian vs ausarian? *LINK*
three_sixty -- Thursday, 23 March 2006, at 10:42 a.m.

Re: sethian vs ausarian?
livelyup -- Thursday, 23 March 2006, at 10:22 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST? *LINK*
three_sixty -- Sunday, 26 March 2006, at 7:44 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST? *LINK*
three_sixty -- Sunday, 26 March 2006, at 7:52 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
karibkween -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 12:23 p.m.

Laws of NTR teach us!
Ras Heru -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 2:28 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
three_sixty -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 2:40 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
selassielive -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 6:33 p.m.

seen *NM*
three_sixty -- Thursday, 16 March 2006, at 8:59 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST? *LINK*
karibkween -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 11:51 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
three_sixty -- Thursday, 16 March 2006, at 8:57 a.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
livelyup -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 8:45 p.m.

Re: DOES EVIL EXIST?
three_sixty -- Thursday, 16 March 2006, at 9:00 a.m.

jack and the 'beans'talk? *NM* *LINK*
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 16 March 2006, at 9:45 a.m.

jack and his mother lived happily ever after *LINK*
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 16 March 2006, at 9:58 a.m.

Re: jack and his mother lived happily ever after
three_sixty -- Thursday, 16 March 2006, at 10:18 a.m.

Re: jack and his mother lived happily ever after
livelyup -- Thursday, 16 March 2006, at 10:27 p.m.

humpty dumpty/ the humpty dance
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 16 March 2006, at 11:54 p.m.

Re: humpty dumpty/ the humpty dance
livelyup -- Friday, 17 March 2006, at 12:28 a.m.

Re: too deep!
Bantu-Kelani -- Wednesday, 15 March 2006, at 5:59 a.m.

Did anyone say YES or NO to the question yet? *NM*
discipleofthenile -- Wednesday, 22 March 2006, at 2:22 p.m.

Re: Did anyone say YES or NO to the question yet? *LINK*
karibkween -- Wednesday, 22 March 2006, at 7:04 p.m.