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Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent

Posted By: Jah Melku
Date: Thursday, 2 March 2006, at 5:15 p.m.

In Response To: Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent (karibkween)

"Martin became a pawn for the christianized African-American bourgeoisie agenda"

Could you please explain with more facts such a claim?

"Malcolm the pawn of Islam and the Hon. Elijah Mohammed"

Did brother Malcolm not free himself from that state of pawnhood? and was this not the time that he became too effective and considered a threat to the point that the Elijah considered it prudent to eliminate him?

"The failure of these movements to maintain momentum, rests on their limited appeal."

These movements died because the leaders died, and there were no others to take up the banner effectively, blue-black or light-skinned, neither were present.

"Both had some characteristics that resonated but overall they both sought to restrict or define Africans using non-African standards. African liberation was conditional based on adherance to non-African ideals."

What features of African-ness did MLK or MX choose to sell out?

Marcus himself stated his admiration for white society. Not that he wanted to be white by any means, but can it be denied what they have accomplished in this time? We surely disagree with their means, but those means are definitely not the only way to reach some of the ends they reached.

They have a powerful education system (which empowers their children more than ours), they have an effective law-and-order system (which discriminates against ours, but protects their own), they have a stable political system (which maintains the power of the mainly white elite), they have a discriminatory economic system, but that system is fairly effective at creating white wealth (even though it is at the expense of the oppressed). Again, Marcus sought for us to achieve these things, through Black unity, because it was white unity (british, french, italians, irish, all uniting under their white 'melting pot' banner) that accomplished their things. Also we sought to do it under the banner of Love, Justice, Equality for all (something they were not able to adhere to).

Love And Peace,
Jah Melku

Messages In This Thread

What does it mean to be black in the 21st century? *LINK*
selassielive -- Friday, 24 February 2006, at 11:03 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
karibkween -- Friday, 24 February 2006, at 4:39 p.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
selassielive -- Friday, 24 February 2006, at 5:58 p.m.
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Ayinde -- Sunday, 26 February 2006, at 7:38 a.m.
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selassielive -- Monday, 27 February 2006, at 10:47 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 27 February 2006, at 1:09 p.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
selassielive -- Monday, 27 February 2006, at 3:06 p.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 7:59 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Priest Asukile Adigun Adofo -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 9:08 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 10:28 a.m.
Re: Diluted Rastafari Icon?
rasi -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 12:15 p.m.
Re: Diluted Rastafari Icon?
selassielive -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 12:36 p.m.
Re: Diluted Rastafari Icon?
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 12:57 p.m.
Re: Diluted Rastafari Icon?
selassielive -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 1:13 p.m.
Re: Diluted Rastafari Icon?
Eja -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 3:26 p.m.
Re: Diluted Rastafari Icon?
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 2:48 p.m.
Re: Diluted Rastafari Icon? *LINK*
rasi -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 6:12 p.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 8:19 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Priest Asukile Adigun Adofo -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 9:17 a.m.
Re: The whole response to Selassielive!
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 10:37 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
selassielive -- Monday, 27 February 2006, at 3:12 p.m.
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Ayinde -- Monday, 27 February 2006, at 4:35 p.m.
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jahreal -- Monday, 27 February 2006, at 4:54 p.m.
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selassielive -- Monday, 27 February 2006, at 5:44 p.m.
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jahreal -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 5:38 p.m.
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karibkween -- Monday, 27 February 2006, at 7:38 p.m.
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selassielive -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 12:04 a.m.
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leslie -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 5:30 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 5:44 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
leslie -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 5:59 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 6:37 a.m.
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three_sixty -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 9:04 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 11:04 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 10:48 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
rob_afreeka -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 6:40 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
selassielive -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 8:42 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 11:03 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
selassielive -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 11:41 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 2:54 p.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Jah Melku -- Thursday, 2 March 2006, at 9:49 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 2 March 2006, at 11:46 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 2 March 2006, at 11:52 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 2 March 2006, at 11:55 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
selassielive -- Thursday, 2 March 2006, at 12:04 p.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 9:17 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Prince Burridge -- Saturday, 25 February 2006, at 9:08 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 11:09 a.m.
Re: the whole africa was once called Ethiopia/Abys *NM*
rob_afreeka -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 11:17 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Prince Burridge -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 12:22 p.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 2:37 p.m.
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Prince Burridge -- Wednesday, 1 March 2006, at 8:30 a.m.
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Eja -- Wednesday, 1 March 2006, at 12:48 p.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Prince Burridge -- Thursday, 2 March 2006, at 10:02 a.m.
What about InI invaded & occupied lands in Asia ? *NM*
Fyahman -- Wednesday, 1 March 2006, at 12:53 p.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Eja -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 6:45 a.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
selassielive -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 8:53 a.m.
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karibkween -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 2:50 p.m.
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selassielive -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 3:32 p.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Eja -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 3:53 p.m.
Re: POWERFUL AND INSIGHTFUL POSTS EJA AFRICAN LOVE *NM*
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 4:03 p.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Jah Melku -- Thursday, 2 March 2006, at 5:19 p.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Jah Melku -- Thursday, 2 March 2006, at 5:15 p.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
selassielive -- Friday, 3 March 2006, at 8:34 a.m.
Re: GREAT POST!!! *NM*
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 4:15 p.m.
Re: What does it mean to be black in the 21st cent
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 28 February 2006, at 4:22 p.m.

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