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Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO

Posted By: livelyup
Date: Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 8:55 p.m.

In Response To: Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO (three_sixty)

Greetings,

and give thanks three sixty, pretty much sums up what i would have said...

in terms of specific stuff. What i am finding as my role is that of a kind of intermediatry between babylon, as represented mostly by the government, and black communities.

These communities are skeptical of getting technical assistance from government agencies, and so have started to turn to academic instutions and others to give them (hopefully..) more impartial advice, and best yet, to help them to frame their ideas and aspirations in ways that will be overstood and accepted by the powers that be. This is very much the sort of thing that Bantu Kelani's fourth point addresses.

This is no easy thing, but is dependant on throwing out a lot of your preconceived notions of what is possible, acceptable, or 'realistic'. All of which are usually babylon derived mind traps to stop any alternative to the dominant system gaining strength and acceptability. What is interesting, at least in my case, is that the very solutions to creating livable and sustainable communities being pursued by indigenous australians are also being looked at with great interest by some alternative white approaches to community. This puts me in a position of being able to take back some precious ideas from the past masters of living here to white folks who seek to make their own livity a better thing.

So.. to get back to the original question, my approach to combat against the idiocy of racial superiority is to try and advance the practical examples of folk that show that there is nothing at all superior about much of the white livity, and that a good many of the answers lie in the hands of black people.

One of the greatest lessons i have learned both here and elsewhere is that in order to be most authentically true to my own roots and the best aspects of european culture i have to sit at the feet of non-white people. Eyes and ears open, mouth shut....

love and life
paul

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HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEOPLE
Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 2:27 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
rob_afreeka -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 7:49 a.m.
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seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 9:35 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 9:55 a.m.
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seshatasefekht -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 10:11 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 10:30 a.m.
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uplift Iself -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 11:20 a.m.
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likkle b -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 10:28 a.m.
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selassielive -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 10:46 a.m.
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three_sixty -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 11:02 a.m.
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likkle b -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 12:35 p.m.
ps- big up Bantu for the good question *NM*
likkle b -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 12:48 p.m.
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selassielive -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 12:55 p.m.
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highhopes -- Tuesday, 13 December 2005, at 4:23 p.m.
Re: See............
Bantu-Kelani -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 1:16 a.m.
Re: See............
highhopes -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 12:57 p.m.
catchin feelins huh... [suckteeth]
gman -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 10:00 a.m.
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uplift Iself -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 11:27 a.m.
is likkle b white??
RasAtum -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 12:56 p.m.
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likkle b -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 1:09 p.m.
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three_sixty -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 2:03 p.m.
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likkle b -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 2:40 p.m.
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selassielive -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 3:12 p.m.
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uplift Iself -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 11:39 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 12:32 p.m.
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starshyne -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 3:12 p.m.
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likkle b -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 3:39 p.m.
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starshyne -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 4:39 p.m.
likkkle b : as a man thinkest so he is..........
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 9:26 p.m.
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three_sixty -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 9:18 a.m.
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uplift Iself -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 11:42 a.m.
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three_sixty -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 3:36 p.m.
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starshyne -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 1:48 p.m.
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three_sixty -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 2:05 p.m.
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starshyne -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 2:29 p.m.
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three_sixty -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 3:11 p.m.
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starshyne -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 4:01 p.m.
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three_sixty -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 7:15 p.m.
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starshyne -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 2:58 p.m.
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three_sixty -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 3:47 p.m.
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three_sixty -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 8:49 p.m.
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starshyne -- Saturday, 24 December 2005, at 3:43 p.m.
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three_sixty -- Saturday, 24 December 2005, at 3:50 p.m.
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starshyne -- Saturday, 24 December 2005, at 5:11 p.m.
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three_sixty -- Saturday, 24 December 2005, at 6:40 p.m.
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starshyne -- Sunday, 25 December 2005, at 3:42 p.m.
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three_sixty -- Sunday, 25 December 2005, at 3:51 p.m.
leadership has to do with personality
Michael Tafari -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 8:31 p.m.
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starshyne -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 1:46 p.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 9:41 a.m.
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untojah -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 8:00 a.m.
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RasAtum -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 8:33 a.m.
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starshyne -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 2:02 p.m.
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untojah -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 7:36 a.m.
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seshatasefekht -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 9:08 a.m.
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untojah -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 7:17 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO *LINK*
Pianke Nubiyang -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 8:57 a.m.
'withe-white'ness is the destruction of hue-manity *NM*
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 9:43 a.m.
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selassielive -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 9:46 a.m.
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starshyne -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 1:40 p.m.
First :do no harm
Michael Tafari -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 8:07 p.m.
Re: First :do no harm
starshyne -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 4:37 p.m.
PON DE TV
Michael Tafari -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 8:43 p.m.
most whites look pon I man with disgust
Michael Tafari -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 8:56 p.m.
Re: most whites look pon I man with disgust
Rootsie -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 8:32 a.m.
If you are over 10...
starshyne -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 12:44 p.m.
will 'white rastas' destroy "white"ness?....no
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 9:38 p.m.
Ive learned you cant stop anyone from doing anythi
Michael Tafari -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 8:49 p.m.
Re: Ive learned you cant stop anyone from doing an
rasfael naphtali -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 12:37 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 10:59 p.m.
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livelyup -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 11:19 p.m.
while white ones are being patient, others believe
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 1:52 a.m.
Re: while white ones are being patient, others bel
livelyup -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 8:36 p.m.
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three_sixty -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 2:38 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 8:04 a.m.
Re: Specific Project!
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 8:18 a.m.
Re: Specific Project!
Ras C. Liontree -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 3:17 a.m.
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seshatasefekht -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 9:59 a.m.
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Ras C. Liontree -- Friday, 16 December 2005, at 3:06 p.m.
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Ras C. Liontree -- Sunday, 18 December 2005, at 2:14 p.m.
Seshatasefekht
Ras C. Liontree -- Friday, 23 December 2005, at 12:01 p.m.
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seshatasefekht -- Friday, 23 December 2005, at 1:24 p.m.
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Ras C. Liontree -- Sunday, 25 December 2005, at 8:04 a.m.
Re: Specific Project!
starshyne -- Saturday, 24 December 2005, at 4:44 p.m.
By Your Works--not color
Ras C. Liontree -- Sunday, 25 December 2005, at 10:03 a.m.
The Tarzan Fixation
Ayinde -- Sunday, 25 December 2005, at 2:41 p.m.
Ayinde
Ras C. Liontree -- Tuesday, 27 December 2005, at 12:14 p.m.
Same White Saviour Complex
Ayinde -- Tuesday, 27 December 2005, at 3:55 p.m.
Re: Same White Saviour Complex
Ras C. Liontree -- Wednesday, 28 December 2005, at 2:03 p.m.
Re: By Your Works--not color
starshyne -- Sunday, 25 December 2005, at 4:16 p.m.
Your Works
jahlove_72 -- Monday, 26 December 2005, at 10:00 p.m.
Re: Your Works
jahlove_72 -- Monday, 26 December 2005, at 10:23 p.m.
Re: Your Works
starshyne -- Tuesday, 27 December 2005, at 10:11 p.m.
Re: Your Works
starshyne -- Tuesday, 27 December 2005, at 9:58 p.m.
Re: Your Works
three_sixty -- Wednesday, 28 December 2005, at 8:27 a.m.
Re: By Your Works--not color
Ras C. Liontree -- Tuesday, 27 December 2005, at 12:17 p.m.
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three_sixty -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 1:12 p.m.
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livelyup -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 8:55 p.m.
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Fyahman -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 2:56 p.m.
Does the white Ras have more power?
Michael Tafari -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 4:57 p.m.
Re: Does the white Ras have more power?
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 8:04 p.m.
Re: Does the white Ras have more power?
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 8:07 p.m.
Re: Does the white Ras have more power?
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 8:12 p.m.
no white person is subject to white supremacy.....
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 8:15 p.m.
Re: no white person is subject to white supremacy. *NM* *LINK*
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 10:45 p.m.
"white" egypt......
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 10:55 p.m.
sesha, you scared the @#$% out of me with that!!!
discipleofthenile -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 10:13 a.m.
Re: sesha, you scared the @#$% out of me with that *LINK*
seshatasefekht -- Tuesday, 13 December 2005, at 10:28 p.m.
Hotep!!! *NM*
discipleofthenile -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 8:58 p.m.
Well i feel threatened by white supremasses
Michael Tafari -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 9:23 p.m.
Re: Does the white Ras have more power?
starshyne -- Saturday, 24 December 2005, at 3:35 p.m.
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starshyne -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 10:21 p.m.
Re: Starshyne & three_sixty !
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 4:02 a.m.
Whites cannot really educate other Whites
Ayinde -- Sunday, 11 December 2005, at 6:19 a.m.
Re: Whites cannot really educate other Whites
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 5:39 a.m.
Re: Typo Correction
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 5:46 a.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 3:26 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 5:46 a.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 7:01 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 12:59 p.m.
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Fyahman -- Wednesday, 21 December 2005, at 2:24 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Wednesday, 21 December 2005, at 4:16 a.m.
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ebrima -- Tuesday, 13 December 2005, at 4:27 a.m.
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seekingtruth -- Tuesday, 13 December 2005, at 2:55 p.m.
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rasdavid simmonds -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 9:14 p.m.
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seshatasefekht -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 11:06 p.m.
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rasdavid simmonds -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 3:07 a.m.
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seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 9:33 a.m.
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rasdavid simmonds -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 10:55 a.m.
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selassielive -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 11:04 a.m.
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rasdavid simmonds -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 11:17 a.m.
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selassielive -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 11:52 a.m.
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rasdavid simmonds -- Friday, 16 December 2005, at 10:54 a.m.
would we be any different than the bushes if......
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 9:43 p.m.
Re: would we be any different than the bushes if..
rasdavid simmonds -- Friday, 16 December 2005, at 11:04 a.m.
Re: would we be any different than the bushes if..
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 16 December 2005, at 9:00 p.m.
Re: would we be any different than the bushes if..
rasdavid simmonds -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 11:34 a.m.
Re: would we be any different than the bushes if..
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 2:22 p.m.
Re: would we be any different than the bushes if..
rob_afreeka -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 10:52 a.m.
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rasdavid simmonds -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 3:23 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 4:12 a.m.
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rasdavid simmonds -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 11:05 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 12:04 p.m.
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uplift Iself -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 11:46 a.m.
"Death to all balck and white oppressors!!!" ?
Eja -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 11:41 a.m.
Re: "Death to all balck and white oppressors!!!" ?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 7:01 a.m.
Re: "Death to all balck and white oppressors!!!" ?
jahlove_72 -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 11:28 a.m.
white
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 2:35 p.m.
black
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 2:39 p.m.
Invention of the ‘White Race’
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 2:52 p.m.
Re: Invention of the ‘White Race’
rasdavid simmonds -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 3:41 p.m.
Re: Invention of the ‘White Race’
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 5:53 p.m.
Re: Invention of the ‘White Race’
rasdavid simmonds -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 9:03 p.m.
neely fuller jr. is on point. read his work.... *NM*
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 9:56 p.m.
Re: neely fuller jr. is on point. read his work...
ebrima -- Sunday, 18 December 2005, at 4:09 a.m.
interview: neely fuller jr. is on point. *NM* *LINK*
seshatasefekht -- Sunday, 18 December 2005, at 10:38 a.m.
Re: interview: neely fuller jr. is on point.
sabbah -- Sunday, 18 December 2005, at 12:03 p.m.
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uplift Iself -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 11:18 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
IchelA -- Wednesday, 28 December 2005, at 5:26 p.m.
Re: I apologize
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 2 January 2006, at 12:23 a.m.
By Example
Freespirit -- Monday, 2 January 2006, at 5:32 a.m.

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