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Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO

Posted By: three_sixty
Date: Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 2:38 p.m.

In Response To: Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO (Bantu-Kelani)

Greetings Bantu Kelani.

You are indeed missed sis. It saddens me that you are feeling ill. I hope for your well-being.

My statements are rather general here and maybe not the specific focus you were looking for – hopefully they will get fleshed out more as(and if) the reasoning develops.

You said:

"1. How can you recognize a white supremacist (racist)?"

* there are so many levels to this i feel. i think each of us has a degree of racism within us - i think it is in a way hard to escape with the conditioning in this culture combined with the privileges of whiteness that create many impediments to truly taking stock and confronting it. with that in mind, i think it is a matter of how much one is willing to confront the issues when presented with them. what tends to happen in the PC(politically correct) climate is that obvious and overt racists are made an example of – the media does it, they even make mini-series on TV sometimes about the klan, or crazy racist individuals – the message at the end is usually that these people are aberrations to the normal tranquility of everyday American multi-culturalism, melting pot _ _ _ _ (insert your favorite liberal phrase here). what is missing is the CONNECTION between the extreme racist and the system that was built and continues to thrive on racism – the individual extremist racist is easily marginalized, while the system is innocent, even cast as the SOLUTION.

2. How exactly do you make sure he or she is not practicing White Supremacy (racism)?
If we all benefit, then in a way we are all practitioners. Starshyne I think made a good point and perhaps this is a good indicator “ . . . realizing in ourselves the white mentality of arrogance and ignorance we are reared in…a sure sign of this mentality is when we deny that we are unrightfully privileged and receive unearned benefits.”

3. What exactly can white 'Rastas' do, that nobody else can do, to replace white Supremacy with a system of Justice?
it is unfortunate, but i will say it because i feel it is true - but the Christian redeemer programming that many whites adopt in the trod of Rastafari does not help matters much. if one has the idea that soon God is going to save his own and wipe out all wickedness, then the amount of complacency can often times be magnified to an nth degree. i feel some whites pick up this vibe and use it to negate personal responsibility and feel that in many ways we can just sit back and relax and watch "Babylon fall" fully believing that they will be saved. in many ways this is counterproductive to the focus of African liberation. I do feel though that there are also those who do take the lessons of personal responsibility to heart and would not hide behind a religious doctrine as a justification. I think the focus of anyone who claims Rastafari on Africa specifically(even if just vague at first) combined with a general distrust of the system is a focus that many whites in general don’t have. This specific focalized point is what may make us white Rastas unique as opposed to others. I would think that this would cause white ones who claim Rastafari to be more willing(perhaps) to approach the issues surrounding white supremacy. To what level that is taken I think is a matter of character and/or willingness.

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HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEOPLE
Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 2:27 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
rob_afreeka -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 7:49 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 9:35 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 9:55 a.m.
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seshatasefekht -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 10:11 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 10:30 a.m.
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uplift Iself -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 11:20 a.m.
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likkle b -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 10:28 a.m.
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selassielive -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 10:46 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
three_sixty -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 11:02 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
likkle b -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 12:35 p.m.
ps- big up Bantu for the good question *NM*
likkle b -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 12:48 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
selassielive -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 12:55 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
highhopes -- Tuesday, 13 December 2005, at 4:23 p.m.
Re: See............
Bantu-Kelani -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 1:16 a.m.
Re: See............
highhopes -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 12:57 p.m.
catchin feelins huh... [suckteeth]
gman -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 10:00 a.m.
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uplift Iself -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 11:27 a.m.
is likkle b white??
RasAtum -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 12:56 p.m.
Re: is likkle b white??
likkle b -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 1:09 p.m.
Re: is likkle b white??
three_sixty -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 2:03 p.m.
Re: is likkle b white??
likkle b -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 2:40 p.m.
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selassielive -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 3:12 p.m.
Re: is likkle b white??
uplift Iself -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 11:39 a.m.
Re: is likkle b white??
rob_afreeka -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 12:32 p.m.
Re: is likkle b white??
starshyne -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 3:12 p.m.
Re: is likkle b white??
likkle b -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 3:39 p.m.
Re: is likkle b white??
starshyne -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 4:39 p.m.
likkkle b : as a man thinkest so he is..........
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 9:26 p.m.
Re: is likkle b white??
three_sixty -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 9:18 a.m.
Re: is likkle b white??
uplift Iself -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 11:42 a.m.
Re: is likkle b white??
three_sixty -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 3:36 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
starshyne -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 1:48 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
three_sixty -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 2:05 p.m.
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starshyne -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 2:29 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
three_sixty -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 3:11 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
starshyne -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 4:01 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
three_sixty -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 7:15 p.m.
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starshyne -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 2:58 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
three_sixty -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 3:47 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
three_sixty -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 8:49 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
starshyne -- Saturday, 24 December 2005, at 3:43 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
three_sixty -- Saturday, 24 December 2005, at 3:50 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
starshyne -- Saturday, 24 December 2005, at 5:11 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
three_sixty -- Saturday, 24 December 2005, at 6:40 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
starshyne -- Sunday, 25 December 2005, at 3:42 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
three_sixty -- Sunday, 25 December 2005, at 3:51 p.m.
leadership has to do with personality
Michael Tafari -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 8:31 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
starshyne -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 1:46 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
rob_afreeka -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 9:41 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
untojah -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 8:00 a.m.
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RasAtum -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 8:33 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
starshyne -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 2:02 p.m.
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untojah -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 7:36 a.m.
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seshatasefekht -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 9:08 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
untojah -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 7:17 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO *LINK*
Pianke Nubiyang -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 8:57 a.m.
'withe-white'ness is the destruction of hue-manity *NM*
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 9:43 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
selassielive -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 9:46 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
starshyne -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 1:40 p.m.
First :do no harm
Michael Tafari -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 8:07 p.m.
Re: First :do no harm
starshyne -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 4:37 p.m.
PON DE TV
Michael Tafari -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 8:43 p.m.
most whites look pon I man with disgust
Michael Tafari -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 8:56 p.m.
Re: most whites look pon I man with disgust
Rootsie -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 8:32 a.m.
If you are over 10...
starshyne -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 12:44 p.m.
will 'white rastas' destroy "white"ness?....no
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 8 December 2005, at 9:38 p.m.
Ive learned you cant stop anyone from doing anythi
Michael Tafari -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 8:49 p.m.
Re: Ive learned you cant stop anyone from doing an
rasfael naphtali -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 12:37 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 10:59 p.m.
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livelyup -- Friday, 9 December 2005, at 11:19 p.m.
while white ones are being patient, others believe
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 1:52 a.m.
Re: while white ones are being patient, others bel
livelyup -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 8:36 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
three_sixty -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 2:38 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 8:04 a.m.
Re: Specific Project!
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 8:18 a.m.
Re: Specific Project!
Ras C. Liontree -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 3:17 a.m.
Re: Specific Project!
seshatasefekht -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 9:59 a.m.
Re: Specific Project!
Ras C. Liontree -- Friday, 16 December 2005, at 3:06 p.m.
Re: Specific Project!
Ras C. Liontree -- Sunday, 18 December 2005, at 2:14 p.m.
Seshatasefekht
Ras C. Liontree -- Friday, 23 December 2005, at 12:01 p.m.
Re: Seshatasefekht
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 23 December 2005, at 1:24 p.m.
Re: Seshatasefekht
Ras C. Liontree -- Sunday, 25 December 2005, at 8:04 a.m.
Re: Specific Project!
starshyne -- Saturday, 24 December 2005, at 4:44 p.m.
By Your Works--not color
Ras C. Liontree -- Sunday, 25 December 2005, at 10:03 a.m.
The Tarzan Fixation
Ayinde -- Sunday, 25 December 2005, at 2:41 p.m.
Ayinde
Ras C. Liontree -- Tuesday, 27 December 2005, at 12:14 p.m.
Same White Saviour Complex
Ayinde -- Tuesday, 27 December 2005, at 3:55 p.m.
Re: Same White Saviour Complex
Ras C. Liontree -- Wednesday, 28 December 2005, at 2:03 p.m.
Re: By Your Works--not color
starshyne -- Sunday, 25 December 2005, at 4:16 p.m.
Your Works
jahlove_72 -- Monday, 26 December 2005, at 10:00 p.m.
Re: Your Works
jahlove_72 -- Monday, 26 December 2005, at 10:23 p.m.
Re: Your Works
starshyne -- Tuesday, 27 December 2005, at 10:11 p.m.
Re: Your Works
starshyne -- Tuesday, 27 December 2005, at 9:58 p.m.
Re: Your Works
three_sixty -- Wednesday, 28 December 2005, at 8:27 a.m.
Re: By Your Works--not color
Ras C. Liontree -- Tuesday, 27 December 2005, at 12:17 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
three_sixty -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 1:12 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
livelyup -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 8:55 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
Fyahman -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 2:56 p.m.
Does the white Ras have more power?
Michael Tafari -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 4:57 p.m.
Re: Does the white Ras have more power?
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 8:04 p.m.
Re: Does the white Ras have more power?
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 8:07 p.m.
Re: Does the white Ras have more power?
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 8:12 p.m.
no white person is subject to white supremacy.....
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 8:15 p.m.
Re: no white person is subject to white supremacy. *NM* *LINK*
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 10:45 p.m.
"white" egypt......
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 10:55 p.m.
sesha, you scared the @#$% out of me with that!!!
discipleofthenile -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 10:13 a.m.
Re: sesha, you scared the @#$% out of me with that *LINK*
seshatasefekht -- Tuesday, 13 December 2005, at 10:28 p.m.
Hotep!!! *NM*
discipleofthenile -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 8:58 p.m.
Well i feel threatened by white supremasses
Michael Tafari -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 9:23 p.m.
Re: Does the white Ras have more power?
starshyne -- Saturday, 24 December 2005, at 3:35 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
starshyne -- Saturday, 10 December 2005, at 10:21 p.m.
Re: Starshyne & three_sixty !
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 4:02 a.m.
Whites cannot really educate other Whites
Ayinde -- Sunday, 11 December 2005, at 6:19 a.m.
Re: Whites cannot really educate other Whites
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 5:39 a.m.
Re: Typo Correction
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 5:46 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 3:26 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
rob_afreeka -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 5:46 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 7:01 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
rob_afreeka -- Monday, 12 December 2005, at 12:59 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
Fyahman -- Wednesday, 21 December 2005, at 2:24 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
rob_afreeka -- Wednesday, 21 December 2005, at 4:16 a.m.
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ebrima -- Tuesday, 13 December 2005, at 4:27 a.m.
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seekingtruth -- Tuesday, 13 December 2005, at 2:55 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
rasdavid simmonds -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 9:14 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
seshatasefekht -- Wednesday, 14 December 2005, at 11:06 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
rasdavid simmonds -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 3:07 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 9:33 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
rasdavid simmonds -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 10:55 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
selassielive -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 11:04 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
rasdavid simmonds -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 11:17 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
selassielive -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 11:52 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
rasdavid simmonds -- Friday, 16 December 2005, at 10:54 a.m.
would we be any different than the bushes if......
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 9:43 p.m.
Re: would we be any different than the bushes if..
rasdavid simmonds -- Friday, 16 December 2005, at 11:04 a.m.
Re: would we be any different than the bushes if..
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 16 December 2005, at 9:00 p.m.
Re: would we be any different than the bushes if..
rasdavid simmonds -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 11:34 a.m.
Re: would we be any different than the bushes if..
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 2:22 p.m.
Re: would we be any different than the bushes if..
rob_afreeka -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 10:52 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
rasdavid simmonds -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 3:23 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
rob_afreeka -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 4:12 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
rasdavid simmonds -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 11:05 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
rob_afreeka -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 12:04 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
uplift Iself -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 11:46 a.m.
"Death to all balck and white oppressors!!!" ?
Eja -- Thursday, 15 December 2005, at 11:41 a.m.
Re: "Death to all balck and white oppressors!!!" ?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 7:01 a.m.
Re: "Death to all balck and white oppressors!!!" ?
jahlove_72 -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 11:28 a.m.
white
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 2:35 p.m.
black
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 2:39 p.m.
Invention of the ‘White Race’
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 2:52 p.m.
Re: Invention of the ‘White Race’
rasdavid simmonds -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 3:41 p.m.
Re: Invention of the ‘White Race’
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 5:53 p.m.
Re: Invention of the ‘White Race’
rasdavid simmonds -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 9:03 p.m.
neely fuller jr. is on point. read his work.... *NM*
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 17 December 2005, at 9:56 p.m.
Re: neely fuller jr. is on point. read his work...
ebrima -- Sunday, 18 December 2005, at 4:09 a.m.
interview: neely fuller jr. is on point. *NM* *LINK*
seshatasefekht -- Sunday, 18 December 2005, at 10:38 a.m.
Re: interview: neely fuller jr. is on point.
sabbah -- Sunday, 18 December 2005, at 12:03 p.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
uplift Iself -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 11:18 a.m.
Re: HOW DO YOU WHITE 'RASTAS' STOP OTHER WHITE PEO
IchelA -- Wednesday, 28 December 2005, at 5:26 p.m.
Re: I apologize
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 2 January 2006, at 12:23 a.m.
By Example
Freespirit -- Monday, 2 January 2006, at 5:32 a.m.

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