HomepageHowcomyoucomRaceandHistoryRootsWomenTrinicenter
Homepage
Rastafari Speaks Archive
Buy Books
ARCHIVE HOMEMESSAGE BOARDREASONING FORUMARTICLESARCHIVES

Read Only : Rastafari Speaks Reasoning Archives

[ View Thread ] [ Return to Index ] [ Read Prev Msg ] [ Read Next Msg ]

Beg your pardon?

Posted By: Gorrigan
Date: Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 10:22 p.m.

In Response To: Eja, personal attack?!?! (discipleofthenile)

Disciple-

Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slav#Etymology_of_.27Slav.27

A false etymology popular in National Socialist propaganda, but also found in some older editions of the Oxford English Dictionary, connected Slav with slave. There is certainly no basis for this.
----

I am, therefore, a descendant of a barbarian. I say this with complete and utter respect. I am, by any and all right, the great great great (etc.) grandson of a filthy, spear-shaking barbarian.

This is not just my history, however. This isn't the "white man's" history. This isn't european history. The root of all -civilization- began with an utter lack thereof. There is civilized man, and there is uncivilized man. This is "humanity's" history. We have roots, and we have where the roots have grown into something more. You talk about "white" nature. Are you suggesting that whites are the only ones who slaughter each other for simple reasons of hatred? I hope you've heard of Rwanda. I hope you've heard of Sudan. The founding principles of the Nation of Islam have been arguably applied to those of the KKK. And if you want to even suggest that these few atrocities have been propogated by the white man, think back on when all of humanity fought to survive on a daily basis. What were wars fought over? Land, belief, ignorance, and possessions. All of these things. Were these wars not also fought in Africa? Are these wars still fought today? The answer is a resounding "yes."

Listen to yourself though. White nature? If white people were once black people, as has been proven, then aren't their respective natures spawned from the same roots? The same goes for your previously defined state of mind.

It really is time to stop pointing the finger, defining people by their skin (or even state of mind), and finally face the real issue. It really is. Now I may not understand something like depletion, scarcity (at least not to the degree that many others have faced), and the like. I admit that. There are things in this world, and experiences, that I am ignorant of. And the same goes for you, in regards to where I'm sitting. But there's one thing that is impossible to deny - one thing that there is no rebuttal for.

There is no "more perfect race" so long as we stand as human beings psychologically, morally, aesthetically, socially, or otherwise divided by color, status, creed, or state of being. Until this has been realized, the only person you can blame for this is yourself for being nothing but another link in a vicious chain that has for too long stood unbroken. The rest is rhetoric.

Messages In This Thread

Kamau Kambon
Eja -- Saturday, 22 October 2005, at 10:25 a.m.
Re: Kamau Kambon
Ayinde -- Saturday, 22 October 2005, at 11:14 a.m.
Re: Kamau Kambon *LINK*
Eja -- Saturday, 22 October 2005, at 2:37 p.m.
Re: Kamau Kambon
Ras Heru -- Saturday, 22 October 2005, at 6:42 p.m.
Re: Kamau Kambon
Kris Baylee -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 8:39 p.m.
for "uplift"ness
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 22 October 2005, at 7:33 p.m.
Re: for "uplift"ness
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 22 October 2005, at 7:51 p.m.
Re: for "uplift"ness
Eja -- Sunday, 23 October 2005, at 4:58 a.m.
known-unknown
discipleofthenile -- Sunday, 23 October 2005, at 11:47 a.m.
Re: known-unknown
Ebrima -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 8:21 a.m.
Words are power
discipleofthenile -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 10:17 a.m.
Re: for "uplift"ness
rasdavid simmonds -- Sunday, 23 October 2005, at 4:38 p.m.
yes, evil is evil, the opposite of live/life *NM*
seshatasefekht -- Sunday, 23 October 2005, at 9:39 p.m.
Re: for "uplift"ness
Ras Heru -- Sunday, 23 October 2005, at 10:08 p.m.
powerful!!! *NM*
discipleofthenile -- Sunday, 23 October 2005, at 11:45 p.m.
Re: for "uplift"ness
Eja -- Monday, 24 October 2005, at 6:53 a.m.
love
discipleofthenile -- Monday, 24 October 2005, at 7:17 a.m.
Re: love
Eja -- Monday, 24 October 2005, at 11:24 a.m.
Re: love
rasdavid simmonds -- Monday, 24 October 2005, at 11:57 a.m.
Re: love
Fyahman -- Monday, 24 October 2005, at 12:56 p.m.
Re: love
Eja -- Monday, 24 October 2005, at 3:09 p.m.
Re: for "uplift"ness
rasdavid simmonds -- Monday, 24 October 2005, at 5:55 p.m.
Black Love
Eja -- Tuesday, 25 October 2005, at 2:49 p.m.
re: black love
discipleofthenile -- Tuesday, 25 October 2005, at 3:47 p.m.
Not all words spoken loud are from anger *LINK*
Eja -- Tuesday, 25 October 2005, at 4:02 p.m.
Eja, personal attack?!?!
discipleofthenile -- Tuesday, 25 October 2005, at 4:40 p.m.
Re: Eja, personal attack?!?!
rasi -- Tuesday, 25 October 2005, at 6:00 p.m.
Re: Eja, personal attack?!?! *LINK*
Eja -- Tuesday, 25 October 2005, at 6:42 p.m.
Re: Eja, personal attack?!?!
rasi -- Tuesday, 25 October 2005, at 7:32 p.m.
Re: Eja, personal attack?!?!
Eja -- Wednesday, 26 October 2005, at 12:21 a.m.
when speaking from a glass house dont throw stones *NM*
rasi -- Wednesday, 26 October 2005, at 1:07 p.m.
Re: in closing
rasi -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 7:53 p.m.
It is not an 'old wound' if it still bleeds.
Eja -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 6:17 a.m.
Re: It is not an 'old wound' if it still bleeds.
rasi -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 10:23 a.m.
Re: in closing
Ayinde -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 10:13 p.m.
Re: in closing
rasi -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 1:10 a.m.
African Unity American Style?
Ayinde -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 9:11 a.m.
Re: Eja, personal attack?!?!
Eja -- Tuesday, 25 October 2005, at 6:27 p.m.
Eja, personal attack?!?!
discipleofthenile -- Tuesday, 25 October 2005, at 7:36 p.m.
Beg your pardon?
Gorrigan -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 10:22 p.m.
peace and hotep, gorrigan. *NM*
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 10:52 p.m.
Re: peace and hotep, gorrigan.
Gorrigan -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 12:15 a.m.
Get it straight gorrigan!
discipleofthenile -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 7:46 a.m.
"Straight" is relative. Look in the mirror.
Gorrigan -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 7:05 a.m.
Re: No., YOU butted in!!!
discipleofthenile -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 9:34 a.m.
Welcome to the World Wide Web. Enjoy your stay.
Gorrigan -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 3:10 p.m.
blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah
discipleofthenile -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 4:30 p.m.
And some more blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah *NM*
discipleofthenile -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 4:50 p.m.
Re: blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah
Gorrigan -- Sunday, 30 October 2005, at 9:29 p.m.
Re: "Straight" is relative. Look in the mirror.
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 9:38 a.m.
Surely the irony here doesn't escape you.
Gorrigan -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 3:13 p.m.
Re: Surely the irony here doesn't escape you.
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 3:59 p.m.
in case you did not notice
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 4:04 p.m.
slave = slav = sclavus =sklabos *NM*
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 9:31 a.m.
Re:
Gorrigan -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 7:06 a.m.
Correction
Eja -- Wednesday, 26 October 2005, at 9:23 a.m.
Ologbo Ijakadi
discipleofthenile -- Wednesday, 26 October 2005, at 5:38 p.m.
Re: Ologbo Ijakadi
Eja -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 7:59 a.m.
Re: Ologbo Ijakadi
discipleofthenile -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 8:20 a.m.
TRUE *NM*
Eja -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 9:36 a.m.
Re: Ologbo Ijakadi
Eja -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 6:55 p.m.
Re: Ologbo Ijakadi
karibkween -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 1:28 p.m.
Re: Ologbo Ijakadi
Eja -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 1:51 p.m.
Re: for "uplift"ness
livelyup -- Tuesday, 25 October 2005, at 7:40 p.m.
DEFEND KAMAU KAMBON *LINK*
Eja -- Monday, 24 October 2005, at 3:42 p.m.
love
discipleofthenile -- Monday, 24 October 2005, at 7:52 p.m.
Re: DEFEND KAMAU KAMBON *LINK*
Eja -- Tuesday, 25 October 2005, at 1:02 p.m.
Re: DEFEND KAMAU KAMBON
Eja -- Tuesday, 25 October 2005, at 4:06 p.m.
beloved *LINK*
seshatasefekht -- Monday, 24 October 2005, at 9:27 p.m.
exterminate
discipleofthenile -- Tuesday, 25 October 2005, at 8:06 a.m.
Re: Kamau Kambon
Eja -- Tuesday, 25 October 2005, at 11:54 p.m.
I hear you!!! Peace!!! *NM*
discipleofthenile -- Wednesday, 26 October 2005, at 12:14 a.m.
Re: Kamau Kambon
karibkween -- Wednesday, 26 October 2005, at 4:39 p.m.
Re: Kamau Kambon
rasdavid simmonds -- Wednesday, 26 October 2005, at 5:09 p.m.
Re: Kamau Kambon
sense -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 1:22 p.m.
Re: Kamau Kambon
Eja -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 1:32 p.m.
re: chuckle box
discipleofthenile -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 1:38 p.m.
Re: Kamau Kambon
sense -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 1:55 p.m.
Re: Kamau Kambon
selassielive -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 2:21 p.m.
Re: Kamau Kambon
sense -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 2:27 p.m.
Re: Kamau Kambon
selassielive -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 1:35 p.m.
Re: Kamau Kambon
sense -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 1:53 p.m.
Re: Kamau Kambon
selassielive -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 2:18 p.m.
Re: Kamau Kambon
sense -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 9:45 a.m.
common sense is.......
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 10:30 a.m.
Re: common sense is.......
sense -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 1:06 p.m.
now that is senseless *NM*
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 1:54 p.m.
Re: now that is senseless ????
sense -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 1:58 p.m.
Lets be sensible
discipleofthenile -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 10:44 a.m.
Thanks Sesha...VOLUNTARILY steps foot in America.. *NM*
discipleofthenile -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 10:48 a.m.
Re: Lets be sensible
sense -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 1:17 p.m.
Re: Lets be sensible
discipleofthenile -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 1:34 p.m.
Re: Lets be sensible
sense -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 1:41 p.m.
classifying ME by my race is just... wrong.
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 2:04 p.m.
Re: classifying ME by my race is just... wrong.
sense -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 2:10 p.m.
Re: classifying ME by my race is just... wrong.
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 2:36 p.m.
Re: classifying ME by my race is just... wrong.
livelyup -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 10:35 p.m.
Re: classifying ME by my race is just... wrong.
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 11:26 p.m.
Re: classifying ME by my race is just... wrong.
Gorrigan -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 12:03 a.m.
Re: classifying ME by my race is just... wrong.
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 9:28 a.m.
Re: classifying ME by my race is just... wrong.
Gorrigan -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 7:23 a.m.
Re: classifying ME by my race is just... wrong.
livelyup -- Sunday, 30 October 2005, at 7:27 p.m.
;) *NM* *NM*
Gorrigan -- Sunday, 30 October 2005, at 9:12 p.m.
Re: Lets be sensible
Eja -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 1:36 p.m.
Re: Lets be sensible
sense -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 1:42 p.m.
Re: Lets be sensible
Eja -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 1:52 p.m.
Re: Lets be sensible I will wander off thanks...
sense -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 1:50 p.m.
Non-sense, what is it that you want?
discipleofthenile -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 2:14 p.m.
Re: Non-sense, what is it that you want?
sense -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 2:22 p.m.
here's a question
sabbah -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 7:26 p.m.
WRONG WRONG WRONG
sense -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 10:23 a.m.
% of legal & illegal drugs used by 'whites'? *NM*
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 10:35 a.m.
Re: WRONG WRONG WRONG
sabbah -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 4:28 p.m.
Re: WRONG WRONG WRONG
sense -- Monday, 31 October 2005, at 9:48 a.m.
do you believe RACISM still exsists?
sabbah -- Monday, 31 October 2005, at 10:44 a.m.
Re: do you believe RACISM still exsists?
sense -- Monday, 31 October 2005, at 2:07 p.m.
Re: do you believe RACISM still exsists?
selassielive -- Monday, 31 October 2005, at 2:22 p.m.
Re: do you believe RACISM still exsists?
sense -- Monday, 31 October 2005, at 2:34 p.m.
Re: do you believe RACISM still exsists?
sense -- Monday, 31 October 2005, at 2:38 p.m.
Re: do you believe RACISM still exsists?
selassielive -- Monday, 31 October 2005, at 2:40 p.m.
Re: do you believe RACISM still exsists?
sense -- Monday, 31 October 2005, at 2:42 p.m.
Re: do you believe RACISM still exsists?
sense -- Monday, 31 October 2005, at 2:45 p.m.
Re: WRONG WRONG WRONG *LINK*
starshyne -- Monday, 31 October 2005, at 11:10 a.m.
Re: do you believe RACISM still exsists?
sense -- Monday, 31 October 2005, at 2:18 p.m.
Re: do you believe RACISM still exsists?
Fyahman -- Monday, 31 October 2005, at 2:59 p.m.
Re: do you believe RACISM still exsists?
Eja -- Monday, 31 October 2005, at 3:10 p.m.
Re: do you believe RACISM still exsists?
sense -- Monday, 31 October 2005, at 3:20 p.m.
Re: do you believe RACISM still exsists?
three_sixty -- Monday, 31 October 2005, at 3:30 p.m.
Re: do you believe RACISM still exsists? *LINK*
starshyne -- Monday, 31 October 2005, at 4:05 p.m.
Genocide, Group-Defense and the Historical Context *LINK*
Obadele Bakari Kambon -- Thursday, 27 October 2005, at 1:01 p.m.
Re: Genocide, Group-Defense and the Historical Con
Eja -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 8:50 a.m.
Re: Genocide, Group-Defense and the Historical Con
sense -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 11:26 a.m.
Re: Genocide, Group-Defense and the Historical Con
Ayinde -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 12:16 p.m.
Re: Genocide, Group-Defense and the Historical Con
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 12:49 p.m.
Re: Genocide, Group-Defense and the Historical Con
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 12:53 p.m.
Re: Genocide, Group-Defense and the Historical Con
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 12:58 p.m.
never say that any 'white' person is not a racist
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 1:02 p.m.
Re: Genocide, Group-Defense and the Historical Con
karibkween -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 1:14 p.m.
Re: Genocide, Group-Defense and the Historical Con
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 1:38 p.m.
Re: Genocide, Group-Defense and the Historical Con
selassielive -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 1:53 p.m.
no, it doesn't sound good.....ITS sounds STUPID
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 1:58 p.m.
Re: Genocide, Group-Defense and the Historical Con
karibkween -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 1:55 p.m.
Re: Genocide, Group-Defense and the Historical Con
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 2:29 p.m.
Re: Genocide, Group-Defense and the Historical Con
karibkween -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 4:46 p.m.
Re: Genocide, Group-Defense and the Historical Con
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 6:40 p.m.
Re: Genocide, Group-Defense and the Historical Con
karibkween -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 7:24 p.m.
Re: Fighting fire with fire or water...WOW
discipleofthenile -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 8:28 p.m.
water is spirit
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 10:28 p.m.
Re: water is spirit
karibkween -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 12:53 a.m.
Man, too deep right now...I need to think!!!
discipleofthenile -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 10:02 a.m.
Re: Man, too deep right now...I need to think!!!
starshyne -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 6:59 p.m.
Re: water, fire...
discipleofthenile -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 7:28 p.m.
Re: water, fire... *LINK*
starshyne -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 7:46 p.m.
Re: water is spirit
starshyne -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 7:44 p.m.
hierarchy???
discipleofthenile -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 9:36 p.m.
only higharchy.
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 10:16 p.m.
Re: hierarchy???
starshyne -- Sunday, 30 October 2005, at 12:37 a.m.
Re: Fighting fire with fire or water...WOW
livelyup -- Sunday, 30 October 2005, at 7:41 p.m.
Re: Fighting fire with fire or water...WOW
gman -- Monday, 31 October 2005, at 7:59 a.m.
Re: Genocide, Group-Defense and the Historical Con
karibkween -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 7:52 p.m.
Re: Genocide, Group-Defense and the Historical Con
karibkween -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 7:14 p.m.
'Kill all whites' posters *LINK*
selassielive -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 2:13 p.m.
Re: 'Kill all whites' posters
three_sixty -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 2:28 p.m.
stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid s
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 2:45 p.m.
Needs Restating
rasi -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 2:50 p.m.
dam skippy...........i will *NM*
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 28 October 2005, at 3:21 p.m.
Hellooooooo kkkrackers!!!
Eja -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 5:34 p.m.
how about this "lady"
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 29 October 2005, at 6:12 p.m.
Difference and fear
Eja -- Sunday, 30 October 2005, at 3:33 a.m.
Wisdom and Strength, Eja!!! *NM*
discipleofthenile -- Sunday, 30 October 2005, at 6:55 a.m.
Re: Hellooooooo kkkrackers!!!
starshyne -- Sunday, 30 October 2005, at 12:58 a.m.
Re: Hellooooooo kkkrackers!!!
Eja -- Sunday, 30 October 2005, at 3:12 a.m.

[ View Thread ] [ Return to Index ] [ Read Prev Msg ] [ Read Next Msg ]

Rastafari Speaks Archive is maintained by Administrator with RastafariSpeaks.com 5.12.

FAIR USE NOTICE:
This site may at times contain copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.
For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml


Copyright © 2003-2009 RastafariSpeaks.com & AfricaSpeaks.com