Re: The New Liberians
Posted By: Ayinde In Response To: Re: The New Liberians (selassielive)
Date: Thursday, 20 October 2005, at 1:24 p.m.
In Response To: Re: The New Liberians (selassielive)
"What is worthless to you may be a treasure to someone else."
~ This cliché is also out of context. I will explain why.
You first said:
"We have more in common than we have different, yet we chose to focus on the difference."
I replied with:
"This is a worthless comment.
We usually discuss many things we have in common. I have presented information to show how we all share a common African ancestry. I believe we agree on many points that are presented on the board. So focusing on the differences too is healthy and important. Focusing on Colorism is not the cause of division. The divisions were already there, so these discussions are about explaining some of the reasons there are divisions."
~ In my reply I explained why your statement did not apply to I. I explained that I do focus on many things that we have in common, and the evidence is on the board.
"You talk about colorism and the fact that light is more preferred than dark by babylon, which has been internalized by many Black people.
In I opinion, you are preaching to the choir (with possibly a few exceptions). The conscious black ones here supposively have torn away those shackles of self hatred."
~ While I do not believe that many on this board are above Colorism, I am not engaging issues for the sole benefit of any one person. There will be others who may have not considered many of the issues I address. If you feel you are above Colorism, then let the possible few exceptions learn about it too.
"The conscious BLACK person should embrace all shades of blackness instead of trying to find ways of dividing the hues.
It would be nice to see if a light or brown person has anything to assist for the liberation of Afrikan people before we prejudge them as being favored by the establishment."
~ You know that I work with both light-skinned Blacks, and Whites, and doing so does not alter my Black African stance. That statement really does not apply to I.
"But must we perpetuate them?
Cant we even agree to disagree?"
~ I am not perpetuating differences; I am explaining them and offering my ideas on how these issues can best be dealt with. We can agree or disagree on anything. Agreeing or disagreeing does not prove right and wrong. I am cool with reasoning.
"So what do you suggest?
Black people in the Diaspora become on monolitic group, with knowledge of self and automony, before we can offer assistance to Afrikans on the continent?"
~ I would not suggest what you suggested as a response to your question to I.
I was explaining a point that karibkween was making. Your reply did not address her statement but was more like an out of context tit-for-tat response (of course, in my opinion).
However, even my response did not give the fullness of what karibkween said. She said: "Africans in the diaspora have not even resolved the problems they have with each other, yet they presume they are in a position to dictate the discourse of their relationship with Mother Africa." She spoke about Disaporan Africans not resolving problems with each other and then "they presume they are in a position to dictate the discourse of their relationship with Mother Africa." Read what she said again.
I would say that if Diasporan Africans do not understand how to address and resolve issues among ourselves which are similar to continental issues, then we may not have the answers. Diasporan Africans should keep this in mind when dealing with continental Africans. Of course, the reverse would also apply to Continentals.
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