Posted By: Ayinde In Response To: Re: Questions (selassielive)
Date: Monday, 17 October 2005, at 11:07 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Questions (selassielive)
It will be good if you highlighted your points of disagreement.
"Brown and light blacks can not just change their skin color and blend in with the dominant culture like white people can so I dont put brown and light skin blacks in the same category as whites."
What we are discussing is not about light-skinned Blacks fitting into white communities. It is about lighter-skinned Blacks getting privileges ahead of dark-skinned Blacks. However, I know several very light-skinned Blacks who fit into White communities.
"I am in no way dismissing skin color privilege. It is evident that it exists. If you black step back, if you brown, stick around, If you white, you right. This is not a new concept."
This is strange because although you say this you react as if it is not an issue to be addressed. I have always stated that Colorism is an issue to be addressed within Black communities.
"I saw your picture too Ayinde. I am probably the same shade as you unless the picture was poor quality. You are not dark skin like Marcus Garvey. You are maybe a dark brown but not coal black. I doubt if you are "pure" black yourself. My mother was black. My father is black. My grandmothers and grandfathers were black. So I dont know where I am of "mixed" heritage (In the last 5-6 generations). "
I am a dark-skinned Black African. Of course, there are different shades of dark-skinned Black, as I previously stated. In my previous response I said: “People who see themselves as dark-skinned Black usually do not go into the shades (although there are shades of dark skin Black) to explain how they look.” The point I made is certainly not about if I am blacker than or lighter than you or Haile Selassie. Check the above quote again. Although I am a dark-skinned Black African, I am not in denial about the privileges I get in relation to others.
"So I dont know where I am of "mixed" heritage (In the last 5-6 generations). If I did, I wouldnt have had any control over that now would I?"
Whites could ask the same question. They could always claim they do not have any control over White Privilege. If you think what you posted is a valid question in the context of discussing Colorism, then you really do not have a grasp on why Whites are challenged on White Privilege. They could easily give your answer and remain quite immoral for casually accepting unmerited ‘benefits’.
"I dont sight Haile Selassie as light skin. Angela Davis is light skin. Haile Selassie is brown in my opinion."
Ok you don't but others do, and they are quite right to do so. As I stated, the dynamics of color is not static.
"Dont tell me that dark black Afrikans dont deal with shades of blackness because if that was the case, then all of the "pure" blacks here would not make a big fuss, acting as if they want to impose the paper brown litmus test."
That is another distortion of the point I made. I never said that dark-skinned Blacks do not deal with shades of blackness. Why resort to this. This is what I actually said: "People who see themselves as dark-skinned Black usually do not go into the shades (although there are shades of dark skin Black) to explain how they look."
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