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Re: HAILE SELASSIE I IS THE RASTAFARI MOVEMENT....

Posted By: Ras Paul Motingwa
Date: Thursday, 13 October 2005, at 1:57 a.m.

In Response To: Re: HAILE SELASSIE I IS THE RASTAFARI MOVEMENT.... (selassielive)

Yes I. Oromorality prompt I man to read more Etiopian history. Since the time is lacking at this very moment I will comment off the top of my head about what I think I know. I will return to my statement that Menelik mother was from the Galla tribe making him 'of low birth.' This 'low birth is not my own opinion but reflects the view of perhaps racist European commenting on Ethiopia. I man was merely trying to show why I feel that it was unlikely that Menelik II would downpress his ow mother's people!

The main reason why I seem so biased towards Menelik II is that I know that he once made a treaty with one European 'power'(Italy) in which the Europeans had their own version of the treaty ie. Menelik's version said that Ethiopia would 'if they wished' consult the European power when making decisions of international importance. The Italian powers however took it to mean that Ethiopia was obliged to ask for European permission when making international decisions! It was the alertness of Menelik II which made it necessary to fight and defend Ethiopia from European encroachment vis-a-vis the Battle of Adowa.

When I check Oromorality statements at face value my instincts remind me how Walter Rodney broke down to I & I how Europeans amplify 'tribal' differences to perpetuate divide and rule over I & I as Afrikans. Differences which all over Afrika as in all the world would have been naturally transcended if Europe had nod interfered in the course of history are now encouraged among I & I. I mean clans and 'tribes' constitute FAMILY ties or imply common descent from the same anscestor. But rarely does an Afrikan village or region for that matter constitute purely of people of the same ethnic stock (that might lead to incest!)even though they do sometimes take up the NAME of a particular tribe.

As my own hypothesis I might remind ones and ones that the ancient historians (e.g. Herodotus) when they were speaking of Ethiopia/Egypt/Cush - "The Land of the Blacks" they described an area wwhich extended as far as Babylonia in the north, Southern Arabia and the Ganges river and India. So though I feel I must research on the origin of the Semitic peoples who emigrated to Ethiopia I don't forget that they are still considered African's by some. "Are ye not as unto the children of Ethiopia unto I." Today Istorians like Chiek Anta Diop teach that there were two types of Afrikans, both with the same skin type that would be classified as Negro in Amerikkka while some had straight hair (as those found in India) and those with frizzled hair.

In the meantime I will go and research on Amharization and the arrival of Semitic peoples in Afrika! Give Yanks!

Messages In This Thread

HAILE SELASSIE I IS THE RASTAFARI MOVEMENT........
blessedflames -- Sunday, 9 October 2005, at 7:05 p.m.
Re: HAILE SELASSIE I IS THE RASTAFARI MOVEMENT....
sabbah -- Sunday, 9 October 2005, at 8:12 p.m.
Re: HAILE SELASSIE I IS THE RASTAFARI MOVEMENT....
blessedflames -- Sunday, 9 October 2005, at 10:52 p.m.
MARCUS GARVEY TOO
Ayinde -- Sunday, 9 October 2005, at 8:14 p.m.
ayinde?
Michael Tafari -- Sunday, 9 October 2005, at 10:52 p.m.
cut out the root n the tree ago wither *NM*
Michael Tafari -- Sunday, 9 October 2005, at 11:06 p.m.
Re: ayinde?
Ayinde -- Monday, 10 October 2005, at 9:46 a.m.
i wasnt talkin bout the site but the self
Michael Tafari -- Monday, 10 October 2005, at 11:16 p.m.
that would be illegal!
Michael Tafari -- Tuesday, 11 October 2005, at 12:25 a.m.
Re: MARCUS GARVEY TOO
blessedflames -- Sunday, 9 October 2005, at 10:57 p.m.
Re: MARCUS GARVEY TOO
Ayinde -- Monday, 10 October 2005, at 9:43 a.m.
Re: I totally agree with you.........! *NM*
Bantu-Kelani -- Sunday, 9 October 2005, at 11:24 p.m.
Re: MARCUS GARVEY TOO
blessedflames -- Sunday, 9 October 2005, at 11:34 p.m.
!!!!
sabbah -- Sunday, 9 October 2005, at 11:49 p.m.
Re: !!!!
blessedflames -- Sunday, 9 October 2005, at 11:56 p.m.
Re: !!!!
blessedflames -- Sunday, 9 October 2005, at 11:59 p.m.
Re: MARCUS GARVEY TOO
Ayinde -- Monday, 10 October 2005, at 9:38 a.m.
Re: MARCUS GARVEY TOO
blessedflames -- Sunday, 9 October 2005, at 11:46 p.m.
Re: MARCUS GARVEY TOO
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 10 October 2005, at 1:24 a.m.
Re: MARCUS GARVEY TOO
Prince Burridge -- Friday, 21 October 2005, at 10:49 a.m.
Re: MARCUS GARVEY TOO
Priest Asukile Adigun Adofo -- Monday, 10 October 2005, at 3:55 a.m.
Re: MARCUS GARVEY TOO
blessedflames -- Monday, 10 October 2005, at 8:20 a.m.
Re: MARCUS GARVEY TOO
Ayinde -- Monday, 10 October 2005, at 9:53 a.m.
Re: MARCUS GARVEY TOO
blessedflames -- Monday, 10 October 2005, at 10:05 a.m.
Re: MARCUS GARVEY TOO
Ayinde -- Monday, 10 October 2005, at 10:09 a.m.
Re: MARCUS GARVEY TOO
blessedflames -- Monday, 10 October 2005, at 10:14 a.m.
Re: MARCUS GARVEY TOO
Ayinde -- Monday, 10 October 2005, at 10:24 a.m.
Re: MARCUS GARVEY TOO
blessedflames -- Monday, 10 October 2005, at 10:33 a.m.
oromo who joined amahara oppressor were rewarded
oromorality -- Monday, 10 October 2005, at 12:24 a.m.
Re: oromo who joined amahara oppressor were reward
blessedflames -- Monday, 10 October 2005, at 12:45 a.m.
Re: oromo who joined amahara oppressor were reward
oromorality -- Monday, 10 October 2005, at 1:05 a.m.
Re: HAILE SELASSIE I IS THE RASTAFARI MOVEMENT....
selassielive -- Monday, 10 October 2005, at 2:38 p.m.
Re: HAILE SELASSIE I IS THE RASTAFARI MOVEMENT....
Ras Paul Motingwa -- Thursday, 13 October 2005, at 1:57 a.m.
Re: HAILE SELASSIE I IS THE RASTAFARI MOVEMENT....
rasdavid simmonds -- Thursday, 13 October 2005, at 10:03 a.m.
Re: Oromorality
Ras Paul Motingwa -- Sunday, 16 October 2005, at 6:55 a.m.
Re: Oromorality
Masimba Musodza -- Sunday, 16 October 2005, at 9:50 a.m.
Re: HAILE SELASSIE I IS THE RASTAFARI MOVEMENT....
Masimba Musodza -- Sunday, 16 October 2005, at 9:51 a.m.
Re: HAILE SELASSIE I IS THE RASTAFARI MOVEMENT....
rasdavid simmonds -- Sunday, 16 October 2005, at 10:57 a.m.
Re: IN DEFENCE OF MENELIK II
Ras Paul Motingwa -- Friday, 21 October 2005, at 1:17 a.m.
Re: IN DEFENCE OF MENELIK II
rob_afreeka -- Friday, 21 October 2005, at 6:15 a.m.
rastafari movement and 'religious' deception
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 21 October 2005, at 11:10 a.m.

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