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Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,

Posted By: Eja
Date: Monday, 30 May 2005, at 2:58 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Faith and belief is the same thing, (sabbah)

sabbah, you said: 'InI overstanding has always been that belief implies doubt'

I would have said faith was what implied doubt (ref: the apostle Thomas who doubted because he lacked sufficient faith). Belief, I would have said is a matter of choice; you choose what to believe - be it proven or not.

Examine these three statements :
'I know there are WMD in Iraq'
'I believe our president'
'I have faith in the work been done by the men searching for WMD'

The above can be aranged in any sequence.

Here is another saying: 'oro o ko enu' meaning 'words do not reject the mouth' - use them as you will, down to the one who hears if they believe, have faith in you or know the truth.

Messages In This Thread

Faith and belief is the same thing,
Ras Marcus -- Sunday, 29 May 2005, at 8:51 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Eja -- Monday, 30 May 2005, at 5:23 a.m.

Re: Understanding is the greatest
Priest Asukile Adigun Adofo -- Monday, 30 May 2005, at 7:29 a.m.

Re: Understanding is the greatest
Eja -- Monday, 30 May 2005, at 8:27 a.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
sabbah -- Monday, 30 May 2005, at 11:26 a.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Eja -- Monday, 30 May 2005, at 2:58 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
sabbah -- Monday, 30 May 2005, at 3:50 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Eja -- Monday, 30 May 2005, at 6:21 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Ras Heru -- Monday, 30 May 2005, at 3:59 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Ras Marcus -- Monday, 30 May 2005, at 6:57 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
one of the twelve -- Thursday, 2 June 2005, at 10:40 a.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Ras Marcus -- Thursday, 2 June 2005, at 9:05 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
one of the twelve -- Friday, 3 June 2005, at 1:59 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Ras Marcus -- Friday, 3 June 2005, at 9:02 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
one of the twelve -- Tuesday, 7 June 2005, at 9:27 a.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
selassielive -- Tuesday, 7 June 2005, at 9:55 a.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Ras Marcus -- Tuesday, 7 June 2005, at 5:40 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
one of the twelve -- Wednesday, 8 June 2005, at 4:10 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Ras Marcus -- Wednesday, 8 June 2005, at 5:30 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
one of the twelve -- Thursday, 9 June 2005, at 10:41 a.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
selassielive -- Thursday, 9 June 2005, at 2:07 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Ras Marcus -- Thursday, 9 June 2005, at 6:44 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Imanuel -- Thursday, 9 June 2005, at 8:44 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Ras Marcus -- Thursday, 9 June 2005, at 9:51 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
selassielive -- Friday, 10 June 2005, at 8:54 a.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
one of the twelve -- Monday, 13 June 2005, at 10:41 a.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
selassielive -- Monday, 13 June 2005, at 11:05 a.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
one of the twelve -- Monday, 13 June 2005, at 1:55 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
selassielive -- Monday, 13 June 2005, at 2:14 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Priest Asukile Adigun Adofo -- Monday, 13 June 2005, at 11:06 a.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
one of the twelve -- Monday, 13 June 2005, at 1:48 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Ras Marcus -- Monday, 13 June 2005, at 9:05 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Eja -- Monday, 30 May 2005, at 7:15 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Ras Marcus -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, at 5:54 a.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Ras Heru -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, at 4:37 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Ras Marcus -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, at 5:47 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
one of the twelve -- Thursday, 2 June 2005, at 10:25 a.m.

1 12 IS AN ANIMIST NOW?
Ras Heru -- Thursday, 2 June 2005, at 6:47 p.m.

Re: 1 12 IS AN ANIMIST NOW?
one of the twelve -- Friday, 3 June 2005, at 2:05 p.m.

Re: 1 12 IS AN ANIMIST NOW?
Ras Heru -- Friday, 3 June 2005, at 4:48 p.m.

Re: 1 12 IS AN ANIMIST NOW?
Imanuel -- Thursday, 9 June 2005, at 8:50 p.m.

Re: 1 12 IS AN ANIMIST NOW?
Ras Heru -- Sunday, 12 June 2005, at 2:32 p.m.

True words Baba. Give Thanks. *NM*
Eja -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, at 7:08 p.m.

Eja....
Ras Heru -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, at 4:25 p.m.

Re: Eja....
Eja -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, at 7:02 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
one of the twelve -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, at 4:29 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Ras Marcus -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, at 6:15 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
one of the twelve -- Thursday, 2 June 2005, at 10:52 a.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
sabbah -- Thursday, 2 June 2005, at 1:57 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
selassielive -- Thursday, 2 June 2005, at 2:05 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Imanuel -- Thursday, 9 June 2005, at 8:28 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Imanuel -- Thursday, 9 June 2005, at 8:25 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
selassielive -- Friday, 10 June 2005, at 8:59 a.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
one of the twelve -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, at 4:24 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Eja -- Tuesday, 31 May 2005, at 5:36 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
selassielive -- Friday, 3 June 2005, at 2:34 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Ras Marcus -- Friday, 3 June 2005, at 7:44 p.m.

Re:FAITH IN SELF IS ASURED
Priest Asukile Adigun Adofo -- Saturday, 4 June 2005, at 1:23 a.m.

Re:FAITH IN SELF IS ASURED
Ras Marcus -- Saturday, 4 June 2005, at 9:52 a.m.

Re:FAITH IN SELF IS ASURED
Ras Heru -- Saturday, 4 June 2005, at 12:18 p.m.

Re:FAITH IN SELF IS ASURED
Ras Marcus -- Saturday, 4 June 2005, at 6:21 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
selassielive -- Monday, 6 June 2005, at 2:03 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Ras Marcus -- Tuesday, 7 June 2005, at 6:08 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Ras Jon -- Monday, 6 June 2005, at 5:05 p.m.

Re: Faith and belief is the same thing,
Ras Heru -- Thursday, 9 June 2005, at 7:10 p.m.