Re: WHY DO BLACK RASTAFARIAN MEN DATE WHITE WOMEN?
Posted By: Bantu-Kelani In Response To: Re: WHY DO BLACK RASTAFARIAN MEN DATE WHITE WOMEN? (PatriotWarrior)
Date: Wednesday, 23 March 2005, at 2:18 a.m.
In Response To: Re: WHY DO BLACK RASTAFARIAN MEN DATE WHITE WOMEN? (PatriotWarrior)
You said: “ “Hard Core”? “
I would say a Rasta person who is pro-black.
You said: “ I don’t know if all black Rastafarian men date white women, or that they are “hard core”, but I think I would agree that interracial -- (i.e. mainly black/white) -- relationships are generally accepted -- (or should we just say ‘tolerated’) -- by (perhaps) most “Rastafarian men”. “
Of course, not all Rasta males have white mates, but you agree with me MOST Rasta men who sleep with white women esteem these women, the question then becomes to who do their hold their alliance? Their white mate or their own African blackness?
You said: “ Generally speaking, and speaking from my own personal experience, I’ve had no major problem with it and it’s personally not for me to judge. “
To me the black Rastas, who are supposed to build the black race, should care that other black people prefer white people to other black people. It should be a big deal for you that blacks treat whites better than they treat blacks. You should see how this hurt our group of people.
You said: “ But have you considered blacks who live in places where there are virtually no black women? “
I know Congolese people in Germany who are only married to other Congolese. Their being isolated to other blacks didn’t cause them to reproduce and share life with the people who are part of a system that was and is used to oppress our people overtly and covertly. I know other blacks in Sweden, Denmark, Poland, Portugal, Turkey to name a few of these bigot countries that has a few number of black people, but they will just say loud and clear " I will not date a white man/woman, I don’t want the mother/father of my children to be white.” Because my friends know a white mate will conflict with themselves.
You said: “ (Or how about Black women who marry white men for their own various reasons?)
There are many black women married to, or preferring, whites also, and some may even have their own reasons for (REALLY) loathing black men. So I think it is fair to say the issue at hand is that black people are divided or being divided or dividing ourselves (most without really knowing that they are), or we don’t love ourselves but we hate one another with a fiery passion. “
The statistics say that black men are far more likely to marry a white women than black women, who seem far more concerned with perpetuating the race with black men. I think sistas have, between us, not forgotten what white folks have done to us as a people. Black women don't forget their hurt, black men do, brothas find it easier to put hurt behind them - or so it seems...
You said: “ the reality is that multiracial relationships can tend to be more “PROBLEMATIC”, and, in the Western world (or indeed anywhere) -- especially in cases where both partners are “weak” -- very emotionally draining, challenging, scaring ... I think it is fair to say people should tend toward “racial harmony”, meaning sticking to people from their own 'ethnographic background'. In principle, therefore, I agree with you that this issue is an important one.
The reasons for this self-hate, which manifests itself in different forms, usually border on the material and also on the psychical, and are usually rooted in physical self-hate itself. “
Absolutely brother PatriotWarrior! The day I realized this, was the day I stopped caring about interracial relationships. I want to build the black race, not contribute to white supremacy, so I definitely refuse to look back.
You said: “ Many Black people -- NOT JUST RASTAFARIANS -- would prefer going out with a white woman to doing that with a black one, for varying reasons, etc.… “
Haven’t you noticed the way, essentially, the Rastafarians men are pursuing romantically and sexually white women? I was having a conversation yesterday with a Rasta brotha and he said black females don’t want to commit to the Rastafari belief and cultural lifestyle, he say black women don’t challenge him on the domestic front, he is getting tired of their mentality bla bla... this is a well-known phenomenon. Bob Marly himself was so nice and so sweet to white women. He marveled at having the trophy of MISS JAMAICA A WHITE WOMAN. He showed no value for Rita a black African Queen pursuing white women! This is the case with many black Rasta men since Bod did it. Besides, it is not hard to see the most educated and professional brothas overlook self-employed and educated black woman to marry poor and ignorant white women. To me what these black men are doing to black woman is betrayal!
You said: “What kind of black do you define as black, or at least as a “dateable/marriageable black” (to you)?
(If there is some phenotypic/genetic reference to your defintion, then please break that down for me) “
The bottom line is I stick to pure black Africans. I say pure black Africans because I love my "own" black race. I don’t even want a black man mixed with white, Asian, Indian, Arab or whoever. I want my mate BLACK, AFRICAN like me nothing against other people of color but I don’t rely on interracial dating to bring my life out of any [censored] holes. And it would be especially idiotic for me to date/marry a white man that knows not my struggle whom have never felt the sting of oppression/racism because of his sheltered existance it is really a big deal for me.
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