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Re: Some dialogue related to this issue . . .

Posted By: Ayinde
Date: Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 8:59 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Some dialogue related to this issue . . . (livelyup)

Fyahman is quite correct in what he said.

This is the reason Whites, and, to a lesser degree, other light-skin ones are automatically unsuitable for leadership in Black movements, and anywhere that calls for a restoration of social justice. All judgments by whites/light-skin ones on Blacks are out of order and it will remain that way. It does not matter if what they say about Blacks appears to be true.

livelyup said: "..and as a consequence of this dynamic it almost stands to reason that the most effective role to be played by members of the socio-cultural elite, ie whit folk, is to dismantle the system from within, to act as a fifth column so to speak. Because a flipside of our position is that we are ideally placed to overstand, manipulate, and transform babylon itself."

This is another illusion that is also the product of 'arrogance'. Without constant informed Black help, Whites cannot work effectively to dismantle the system from within. Anything whites do without informed Black guidance will have a negative effect on the people they claim they want to help. There is no exception to this for the same reasons I have often shared on this board.

Try to think it out and see if you can understand why this is so.

Messages In This Thread

A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Sunday, 13 February 2005, at 12:59 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
ANCIENT YOUTH -- Sunday, 13 February 2005, at 11:35 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Sunday, 13 February 2005, at 4:08 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
ANCIENT YOUTH -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 5:01 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 7:01 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
one of the twelve -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 9:01 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 3:58 p.m.
To approach this...
livelyup -- Sunday, 13 February 2005, at 6:41 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 6:57 p.m.
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livelyup -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 10:43 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 4:39 a.m.
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livelyup -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 7:51 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 12:25 a.m.
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selassielive -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 12:35 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 3:39 p.m.
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selassielive -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 3:40 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 3:54 p.m.
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selassielive -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 6:06 p.m.
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livelyup -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 6:28 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 3:49 a.m.
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gman -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 8:32 a.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 2:52 p.m.
Re: A Question
rasi -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 3:10 p.m.
Re: A Question
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 4:02 p.m.
Re: A Question
rasi -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 10:11 a.m.
Re: A Question
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 12:09 p.m.
Re: A Question
rasi -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 12:21 p.m.
Re: A Question
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 12:52 p.m.
Re: A Question
rasi -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 1:15 p.m.
Re: Correction
rasi -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 2:04 p.m.
Re: A Question
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 8:28 p.m.
Re: A Question
rasi -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 12:28 a.m.
Glad to see u Baba!
Ras Heru -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 9:14 p.m.
Re: To approach this...
livelyup -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 7:07 p.m.
Re: To approach this...
Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 12:49 a.m.
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livelyup -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 6:39 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 2:58 a.m.
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Freespirit -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 4:16 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 7:46 a.m.
Re: To approach this...
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 3:00 p.m.
Re: TYPO CORRECTION
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 3:04 p.m.
Re: TYPO CORRECTION
rob_afreeka -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 10:04 a.m.
Re: To approach this... *LINK*
iyah360 -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 3:28 p.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 10:23 a.m.
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three_sixty -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 10:37 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 12:20 p.m.
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three_sixty -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 8:54 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 10:33 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
seshatasefekht -- Sunday, 13 February 2005, at 9:44 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
rob_afreeka -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 11:33 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
rob_afreeka -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 6:14 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
selassielive -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 12:14 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
gman -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 12:32 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 4:36 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 6:51 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
selassielive -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 11:02 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 3:54 p.m.
Some dialogue related to this issue . . . *LINK*
iyah360 -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 11:49 a.m.
Re: Some dialogue related to this issue . . .
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 4:20 p.m.
Re: Some dialogue related to this issue . . .
iyah360 -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 11:02 a.m.
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Fyahman -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 2:51 p.m.
Re: Some dialogue related to this issue . . .
iyah360 -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 2:54 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 4:18 p.m.
Give Tanks!!!!! *NM*
Fyahman -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 5:40 p.m.
Re: Some dialogue related to this issue . . .
livelyup -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 7:59 p.m.
Re: Some dialogue related to this issue . . .
Ayinde -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 8:59 p.m.
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livelyup -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 11:21 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 4:07 p.m.
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Oshun Auset -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 5:46 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 12:35 a.m.
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gman -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 8:42 a.m.
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livelyup -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 8:20 p.m.
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Chantindown -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 5:53 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 4:13 a.m.
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gman -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 12:39 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 3:44 p.m.
Re: A Black Person & pro America do they mix? *NM*
rasi -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 12:02 p.m.
any person with a heart is pro black!
Binghi Lion -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 12:27 p.m.
Re: any person with a heart is pro black! *LINK*
iyah360 -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 1:31 p.m.
Re: any person with a heart is pro black!
Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 3:52 p.m.
Re: any person with a heart is pro black!
Oshun Auset -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 4:16 p.m.
bumbo clat lani ,Dont tell I who 2 talk 2
Binghi Lion -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 10:21 a.m.
Re: bumbo clat lani ,Dont tell I who 2 talk 2
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 1:52 p.m.
Re: bumbo clat lani ,Dont tell I who 2 talk 2
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 2:23 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 11:38 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 3:31 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 5:08 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 5:57 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 6:08 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 6:11 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 6:31 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Heru -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 9:27 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 1:48 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Chantindown -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 12:04 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Jair_Naphtalii -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 12:34 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 1:39 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Chantindown -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 2:09 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix? *LINK*
three_sixty -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 2:24 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Chantindown -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 3:00 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
three_sixty -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 9:49 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 3:04 p.m.
Do Ones Know the Elders Teachings?
Ras Heru -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 3:24 p.m.
Re: Do Ones Know the Elders Teachings?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 3:31 p.m.
Re: Do Ones Know the Elders Teachings?
Chantindown -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 3:41 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 3:14 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 3:26 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 3:42 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 3:44 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:04 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:19 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:37 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Heru -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:12 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:16 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:26 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:30 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:59 p.m.
BK - Be real...talk to me, not my skin color
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 5:02 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Jair_Naphtalii -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 5:47 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 3:46 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Heru -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:30 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:50 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 5:17 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:16 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 5:08 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Chantindown -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 6:21 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Heru -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 8:11 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Heru -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 8:17 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Chantindown -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 8:38 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix? *LINK*
Afu-Ra-Kha!! -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 9:16 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Heru -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 10:32 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Chantindown -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 10:46 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 10:06 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 3:07 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Heru -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 6:36 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 8:03 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 8:17 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Heru -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 8:40 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 8:54 p.m.
typo
Ras Ishod -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 9:00 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 9:08 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Chantindown -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 11:07 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 11:59 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Chantindown -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 1:26 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 12:30 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Chantindown -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 2:48 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 8:40 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Jair_Naphtalii -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 11:52 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Chantindown -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 12:16 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 1:03 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Marcus -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 7:55 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
andrew -- Friday, 25 March 2005, at 8:17 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Alfonso -- Sunday, 27 March 2005, at 3:19 a.m.

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