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Re: Some dialogue related to this issue . . .

Posted By: iyah360
Date: Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 11:02 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Some dialogue related to this issue . . . (Bantu-Kelani)

"I totally agree with white people to make effort to learn the healing indigenous wisdom, but this just should be a way of separating with themselves.

In denying themselves, there have been many times where whites seek no solution, no different ways to create better community for black people, yet they say they love black people. Is this what they are about?"

* It is true that we can become content with our self-righteousness and thus think we are seperate from our white compatriots. This happens a lot in Rastafari as I have witnessed. It is also a symptom of the "liberal" and/or "progressive" types as well who think themselves better and not part of the problem. It takes humility to see.

"Why do we as black people have to accept this pro black behavior as acceptable for a white person? There are plenty of white people speaking about black pride and black this and that, yet, these people are lying and not practicing what they are so passionately preaching."

* This is true. On one hand, education is important - white people are brainwashed and many are just plain ignorant of the issues that effect black people. It is hard to get ones who don't even know what it going on to make a change, and unfortunately these ones form a large part of the white population. On the other hand, the culture in the U.S. is very sedative and coffee shop intellectualism does not seem to leave the realm of reasoning - it is just another form of knowledge as vanity.

"We are we talking about white people that simply don't see any racism and are against everything that will allow black people to progress…white people and pro-black ideas are a waste of time most of the time."

* I'm jsut trying to understand . . . Are you saying that since most white people are caught up in benefits from the system and thus defend it, that a white person with "pro-black" views does not make an impact and it is a waste of energy?

Messages In This Thread

A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Sunday, 13 February 2005, at 12:59 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
ANCIENT YOUTH -- Sunday, 13 February 2005, at 11:35 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Sunday, 13 February 2005, at 4:08 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
ANCIENT YOUTH -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 5:01 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 7:01 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
one of the twelve -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 9:01 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 3:58 p.m.
To approach this...
livelyup -- Sunday, 13 February 2005, at 6:41 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 6:57 p.m.
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livelyup -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 10:43 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 4:39 a.m.
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livelyup -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 7:51 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 12:25 a.m.
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selassielive -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 12:35 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 3:39 p.m.
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selassielive -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 3:40 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 3:54 p.m.
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selassielive -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 6:06 p.m.
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livelyup -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 6:28 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 3:49 a.m.
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gman -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 8:32 a.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 2:52 p.m.
Re: A Question
rasi -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 3:10 p.m.
Re: A Question
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 4:02 p.m.
Re: A Question
rasi -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 10:11 a.m.
Re: A Question
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 12:09 p.m.
Re: A Question
rasi -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 12:21 p.m.
Re: A Question
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 12:52 p.m.
Re: A Question
rasi -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 1:15 p.m.
Re: Correction
rasi -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 2:04 p.m.
Re: A Question
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 8:28 p.m.
Re: A Question
rasi -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 12:28 a.m.
Glad to see u Baba!
Ras Heru -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 9:14 p.m.
Re: To approach this...
livelyup -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 7:07 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 12:49 a.m.
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livelyup -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 6:39 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 2:58 a.m.
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Freespirit -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 4:16 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 7:46 a.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 3:00 p.m.
Re: TYPO CORRECTION
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 3:04 p.m.
Re: TYPO CORRECTION
rob_afreeka -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 10:04 a.m.
Re: To approach this... *LINK*
iyah360 -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 3:28 p.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 10:23 a.m.
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three_sixty -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 10:37 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 12:20 p.m.
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three_sixty -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 8:54 a.m.
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rob_afreeka -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 10:33 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
seshatasefekht -- Sunday, 13 February 2005, at 9:44 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
rob_afreeka -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 11:33 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
rob_afreeka -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 6:14 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
selassielive -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 12:14 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
gman -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 12:32 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 4:36 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 14 February 2005, at 6:51 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
selassielive -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 11:02 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 3:54 p.m.
Some dialogue related to this issue . . . *LINK*
iyah360 -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 11:49 a.m.
Re: Some dialogue related to this issue . . .
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 15 February 2005, at 4:20 p.m.
Re: Some dialogue related to this issue . . .
iyah360 -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 11:02 a.m.
Re: Some dialogue related to this issue . . .
Fyahman -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 2:51 p.m.
Re: Some dialogue related to this issue . . .
iyah360 -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 2:54 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 4:18 p.m.
Give Tanks!!!!! *NM*
Fyahman -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 5:40 p.m.
Re: Some dialogue related to this issue . . .
livelyup -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 7:59 p.m.
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Ayinde -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 8:59 p.m.
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livelyup -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 11:21 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 4:07 p.m.
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Oshun Auset -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 5:46 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 12:35 a.m.
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gman -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 8:42 a.m.
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livelyup -- Wednesday, 16 February 2005, at 8:20 p.m.
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Chantindown -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 5:53 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 4:13 a.m.
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gman -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 12:39 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 3:44 p.m.
Re: A Black Person & pro America do they mix? *NM*
rasi -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 12:02 p.m.
any person with a heart is pro black!
Binghi Lion -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 12:27 p.m.
Re: any person with a heart is pro black! *LINK*
iyah360 -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 1:31 p.m.
Re: any person with a heart is pro black!
Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 3:52 p.m.
Re: any person with a heart is pro black!
Oshun Auset -- Thursday, 17 February 2005, at 4:16 p.m.
bumbo clat lani ,Dont tell I who 2 talk 2
Binghi Lion -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 10:21 a.m.
Re: bumbo clat lani ,Dont tell I who 2 talk 2
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 1:52 p.m.
Re: bumbo clat lani ,Dont tell I who 2 talk 2
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 2:23 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 11:38 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 3:31 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 5:08 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 5:57 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 6:08 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 6:11 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 6:31 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Heru -- Friday, 18 February 2005, at 9:27 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 1:48 a.m.
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Chantindown -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 12:04 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Jair_Naphtalii -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 12:34 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 1:39 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Chantindown -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 2:09 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix? *LINK*
three_sixty -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 2:24 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Chantindown -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 3:00 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
three_sixty -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 9:49 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 3:04 p.m.
Do Ones Know the Elders Teachings?
Ras Heru -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 3:24 p.m.
Re: Do Ones Know the Elders Teachings?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 3:31 p.m.
Re: Do Ones Know the Elders Teachings?
Chantindown -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 3:41 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 3:14 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 3:26 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 3:42 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 3:44 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:04 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:19 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:37 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Heru -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:12 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:16 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:26 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:30 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:59 p.m.
BK - Be real...talk to me, not my skin color
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 5:02 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Jair_Naphtalii -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 5:47 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 3:46 p.m.
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Ras Heru -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:30 p.m.
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Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:50 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 5:17 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 4:16 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 5:08 p.m.
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Chantindown -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 6:21 p.m.
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Ras Heru -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 8:11 p.m.
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Ras Heru -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 8:17 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Chantindown -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 8:38 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix? *LINK*
Afu-Ra-Kha!! -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 9:16 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Heru -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 10:32 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Chantindown -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 10:46 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 10:06 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 3:07 p.m.
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Ras Heru -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 6:36 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Ishod -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 8:03 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 8:17 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Ras Heru -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 8:40 p.m.
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Ras Ishod -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 8:54 p.m.
typo
Ras Ishod -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 9:00 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 9:08 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Chantindown -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 11:07 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Sunday, 20 February 2005, at 11:59 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Chantindown -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 1:26 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 21 February 2005, at 12:30 p.m.
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Chantindown -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 2:48 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 8:40 a.m.
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Jair_Naphtalii -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 11:52 a.m.
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Chantindown -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 12:16 p.m.
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Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 1:03 p.m.
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Ras Marcus -- Tuesday, 22 February 2005, at 7:55 p.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
andrew -- Friday, 25 March 2005, at 8:17 a.m.
Re: A white person & pro black do they mix?
Alfonso -- Sunday, 27 March 2005, at 3:19 a.m.

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