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Re: The other aspect of Pan-African

Posted By: Ayinde
Date: Friday, 17 December 2004, at 10:03 p.m.

In Response To: Re: The other aspect of Pan-African (Fyahman)

Sure you are correct, but I wanted to spell out what I mean by “organize”, and “Africans should come together” or “unite”, instead of these statements coming over like regurgitated clichés that I feel most people do not understand are umbrella statements for a process.

I wanted it on the table that the focus is usually on Africans outside of the continent to embrace Africa, and the necessary reciprocal moves are left out. If Africans on the continent are not learning about the wider Diaspora outside of Africa, then paternalism and missionary tactics remain the only way most can operate. People will attempt to be missionaries when they do not understand the context of other people’s values and culture, and want them to give it up for their idea of another or new way. In the long-term these moves breed resentment, and good intentions can be the source of anguish for many.

I am putting it to Africans on the continent that they too have to learn about Africans in the wider Diaspora so we can build on mutual respect, and not to continue this clash of false ideas of inferior and superior, that disrespects the history/experiences of all sides.

We already do what you are suggesting. Among our developing body there are contractors, doctors, lawyers, engineers, teachers, website technicians, cooks, sound engineers, gardeners, and more, and we are always working at improving our personal skills so we can also extend to others. The difference with us is that we are values based, and we draw from all over the African Diaspora (past and present) as well as what little good we can extract from this corrupt western system. Without working out the values (the issues that keep most people divided), we would be squabbling, ego tripping and fighting among ourselves, and would lack a clear foundation and direction to build on. People can try organizing any way they feel from where they are.

Messages In This Thread

African People Must Nourish Pan Africanization
Ras Marcus -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 7:45 p.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
Fyahman -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 9:27 p.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
Ayinde -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 9:54 p.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
Ras Heru -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 11:12 p.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
Fyahman -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 10:36 a.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanuizatio
Ras Marcus -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 8:48 p.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
Ayinde -- Monday, 13 December 2004, at 9:35 p.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 2:52 a.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 3:41 a.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
Masimba Musodza -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 7:27 a.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
Akymanah -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 12:11 p.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 5:37 p.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
Akymanah -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 7:32 p.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 16 December 2004, at 4:45 a.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 16 December 2004, at 10:34 a.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 16 December 2004, at 3:12 p.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
rasi -- Thursday, 16 December 2004, at 3:50 p.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 16 December 2004, at 5:38 p.m.
i apologize for "my hypocrisy"
seshatasefekht -- Thursday, 16 December 2004, at 5:32 p.m.
Re: i apologize for "my hypocrisy"
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 8:37 a.m.
your flattery will not erode my anger
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 11:12 a.m.
your flattery will not erode my anger
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 11:12 a.m.
Re: your flattery will not erode my anger
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 21 December 2004, at 7:11 a.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
gman -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 11:31 a.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 21 December 2004, at 7:40 a.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
Oshun Auset -- Tuesday, 14 December 2004, at 6:30 p.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
Masimba Musodza -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 6:17 a.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
Bantu-Kelani -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 6:39 a.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanizatio
Oshun Auset -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 8:56 a.m.
The other aspect of Pan-African
Ayinde -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 8:40 a.m.
Re: The other aspect of Pan-African
Bantu-Kelani -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 3:47 p.m.
Re: The other aspect of Pan-African
Ayinde -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 7:25 p.m.
Re: The other aspect of Pan-African
Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 16 December 2004, at 3:39 a.m.
Re: The other aspect of Pan-African
Ayinde -- Thursday, 16 December 2004, at 8:30 a.m.
Re: The other aspect of Pan-African
Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 16 December 2004, at 2:28 p.m.
Re: The other aspect of Pan-African
Ayinde -- Thursday, 16 December 2004, at 3:44 p.m.
Re: The other aspect of Pan-African
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 8:20 a.m.
Re: I miss the word "US"
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 8:41 a.m.
Re: The other aspect of Pan-African
Ayinde -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 10:14 a.m.
Re: The other aspect of Pan-African
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 3:44 p.m.
Re: The other aspect of Pan-African
Fyahman -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 4:00 p.m.
Re: The other aspect of Pan-African
Ayinde -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 10:03 p.m.
Re: The other aspect of Pan-African
Ras Marcus -- Thursday, 16 December 2004, at 9:59 p.m.
Re: The other aspect of Pan-African
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 7:11 a.m.
Re: The other aspect of Pan-African
Ras Marcus -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 9:00 p.m.
Re: The other aspect of Pan-African
selassielive -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 10:43 a.m.
Re: The other aspect of Pan-African
Akymanah -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 7:43 p.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanization
Ayinde -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 9:07 a.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanization
Akymanah -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 7:47 p.m.
Pan Africanization Starts With Each Family
Ras Marcus -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 10:25 p.m.
Re: Pan Africanization Starts With Each Family
Ayinde -- Thursday, 16 December 2004, at 9:37 a.m.
Re: Pan Africanization Starts With Each Family
Ras Marcus -- Thursday, 16 December 2004, at 7:11 p.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanization
PatriotWarrior -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 8:10 p.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanization
Fyahman -- Wednesday, 15 December 2004, at 8:45 p.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanization
PatriotWarrior -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 7:14 a.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanization
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 9:14 a.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanization
PatriotWarrior -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 11:30 a.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanization
Ras Heru -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 4:47 p.m.
Re: African People Must Nourish Pan Africanization
Fyahman -- Friday, 17 December 2004, at 3:25 p.m.
Pan African Organization Committee
Ras Marcus -- Saturday, 18 December 2004, at 8:34 a.m.
Re: Pan African Organization Committee
Akymanah -- Thursday, 23 December 2004, at 1:29 p.m.
Re: Pan African Organization Committee
Ras Marcus -- Thursday, 23 December 2004, at 10:48 p.m.

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