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Re: Calls for White Rasta to resign

Posted By: Fyahman
Date: Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 2:06 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Calls for White Rasta to resign (Kahina (Empress) FiYah)

In most places in the Caribbean, if you are not beyond dark brown; you are not considered African.
Some times a mixed person is identified with the ethnicity that is other than african; for example Chinese. It has been a standard for things Euro and or not black or African to be treated with status and prestige. This no doubt, includes skin color. This type of institutional socialisation makes no one wanting to call themself African. Under Brutish Colonialism, people of such a light shade, as Dr. Ikel were called colored. However after independence, most of them were refered to as red or "local Whites". In other words, they might have African ancestry, but they mainly look by appearance white and marry white or light skin people. They most definitely also ascribe to Euro cultural conventions and institutions. Under colonialism, ignorance was so pervasive that ones have been physically attacked by obvious African looking people; due to the label African being applied to them.

I don't think it is a matter of scorn, but authenticity, because in Barbados Dr. Ikel is considered a "local White". But the commission which he heads is Panafrican. So, in the populace's eyes, he is not reflective of who they consider being African or Black.

N.B. People who are considered Black in the US are viewed as Brown in the Caribbean. In some places you could call it coloracracy where shades of complexion define role, status and prestige in the society. Most of us Know the saying: If yuh black, stay back. If yuh brown, stick around. If yuh white, yuh alright. I think what you would term affirmative action is needed.

Messages In This Thread

Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affairs *LINK*
Ayinde -- Monday, 8 November 2004, at 9:27 p.m.
Calls for White Rasta to resign *LINK*
Ayinde -- Monday, 8 November 2004, at 9:29 p.m.
Re: Calls for White Rasta to resign
Fyahman -- Monday, 8 November 2004, at 10:12 p.m.
Re: Calls for White Rasta to resign
Kahina (Empress) FiYah -- Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 3:22 a.m.
what would king yellowman say....... *NM*
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 10:16 a.m.
Re: what would king yellowman say.......
gman -- Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 11:37 a.m.
was uncle tom a villian or a victim?
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 12:00 p.m.
Re: was uncle tom a villian or a victim?
gman -- Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 12:17 p.m.
Re: was uncle tom a villian or a victim?
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 12:45 p.m.
Re: Calls for White Rasta to resign
iyah360 -- Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 10:28 a.m.
Re: Calls for White Rasta to resign
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 11:48 a.m.
Re: Calls for White Rasta to resign
iyah360 -- Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 12:10 p.m.
Re: Calls for White Rasta to resign
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 12:25 p.m.
Re: Calls for White Rasta to resign
Ayinde -- Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 1:00 p.m.
Re: Calls for White Rasta to resign
Fyahman -- Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 2:06 p.m.
Re: Calls for White Rasta to resign
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 2:45 p.m.
Re: Calls for White Rasta to resign
Fyahman -- Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 3:45 p.m.
Re: Calls for White Rasta to resign
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 4:59 p.m.
Re: Calls for White Rasta to resign
Freespirit -- Sunday, 14 November 2004, at 7:31 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
iyah360 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 9:31 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa *LINK*
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 10:27 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
iyah360 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 11:20 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
SisMenenI -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 11:58 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
selassielive -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 1:58 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
selassielive -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 2:04 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Fyahman -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 10:43 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 11:03 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Fyahman -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 11:57 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 12:22 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
iyah360 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 12:51 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Fyahman -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 1:18 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
rob_afreeka -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 12:11 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa *LINK*
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 12:36 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Fyahman -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 12:49 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 1:50 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
selassielive -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 1:22 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 1:55 p.m.
NO colorless "RASTA" MOVEMENT! *NM*
Ras Heru -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 1:48 p.m.
IF THIS MAN IS "WHITE" NONE OF YOU ARE "BLACK." *NM*
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 1:57 p.m.
Re: IF THIS MAN IS "WHITE" NONE OF YOU ARE "BLACK.
yan -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 2:25 p.m.
Re: IF THIS MAN IS "WHITE" NONE OF YOU ARE "BLACK.
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 2:38 p.m.
Re: IF THIS MAN IS "WHITE" NONE OF YOU ARE "BLACK.
yan -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 3:07 p.m.
Re: IF THIS MAN IS "WHITE" NONE OF YOU ARE "BLACK.
Rebelflames -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 4:00 a.m.
Re: IF THIS MAN IS "WHITE" NONE OF YOU ARE "BLACK.
Ayinde -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 8:56 a.m.
Re: IF THIS MAN IS "WHITE" NONE OF YOU ARE "BLACK.
AaronJudah2003 -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 4:38 p.m.
Re: IF THIS MAN IS "WHITE" NONE OF YOU ARE "BLACK.
Rebelflames -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 8:01 p.m.
It is not so simple
Ayinde -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 10:55 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
yan -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 1:58 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 2:25 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
selassielive -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 2:31 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 2:49 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
selassielive -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 3:42 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
yan -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 2:48 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 3:07 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 3:12 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 3:45 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
yan -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 4:03 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 5:11 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa *LINK*
yan -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 1:52 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
yan -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 3:52 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 5:08 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Fyahman -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 6:16 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 6:49 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Fyahman -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 7:00 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 9:37 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Ayinde -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 8:12 p.m.
Willie Lynch is smiling : )
blessedflames -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 8:45 p.m.
Re: Willie Lynch is smiling
Ayinde -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 8:56 p.m.
Re: Willie Lynch is smiling
blessedflames -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 9:10 p.m.
Re: Willie Lynch is smiling
Ayinde -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 9:22 p.m.
Bless-ed Heart of Love
blessedflames -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 9:36 p.m.
Re: Bless-ed Heart of Love
Ras Tyehimba -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 9:46 a.m.
Re: Bless-ed Heart of Love
AaronJudah2003 -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 10:36 a.m.
Re: Bless-ed Heart of Love
selassielive -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 10:51 a.m.
Re: Bless-ed Heart of Love
AaronJudah2003 -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 11:21 a.m.
Re: Bless-ed Heart of Love
selassielive -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 11:31 a.m.
Re: Bless-ed Heart of Love
AaronJudah2003 -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 1:36 p.m.
Re: Bless-ed Heart of Love
Ras Marcus -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 11:10 p.m.
Re: Willie Lynch is smiling : )
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 9:53 p.m.
Re: Black Rastas Not Smiling
Ayinde -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 9:04 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 9:50 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
blessedflames -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 7:51 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Ayinde -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 7:57 p.m.
Sorry Ras Bigga, & Bongo Watto have passed too *NM*
blessedflames -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 7:59 p.m.
WILLIE LYNCH IN FULL EFFECT 2004...FIRE!!!!!!!!!! *NM*
blessedflames -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 8:04 p.m.
BLACK NAZIS
AaronJudah2003 -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 10:00 p.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
Fyahman -- Tuesday, 9 November 2004, at 10:30 p.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
Ras Tyehimba -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 6:30 a.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
AaronJudah2003 -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 7:46 a.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
Ayinde -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 9:37 a.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
AaronJudah2003 -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 11:12 a.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
Ayinde -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 11:43 a.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
AaronJudah2003 -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 11:47 a.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
jahchannah -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 12:44 p.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
AaronJudah2003 -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 2:06 p.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
yan -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 2:38 p.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
AaronJudah2003 -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 2:56 p.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
yan -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 4:46 p.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
AaronJudah2003 -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 1:27 p.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
Rebelflames -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 10:53 p.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
Ayinde -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 11:13 p.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
Rebelflames -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 11:34 p.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
Ayinde -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 11:42 p.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
AaronJudah2003 -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 12:30 a.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
Rebelflames -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 9:13 p.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
selassielive -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 10:53 a.m.
Re: BLACK NAZIS
AaronJudah2003 -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 11:15 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa *LINK*
Ras Eli -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 8:31 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Akymanah -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 11:45 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 2:12 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Ras Heru -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 2:45 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 3:01 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Ras Heru -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 3:16 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 3:29 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Ras Heru -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 12:20 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 1:11 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Ras Marcus -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 10:35 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 12:01 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Jah Chris -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 8:37 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 10:15 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Ayinde -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 10:26 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 4:33 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Ayinde -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 4:42 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 8:03 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Ras Marcus -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 8:49 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Ayinde -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 9:03 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 10:20 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Ayinde -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 10:42 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 4:34 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Ras Marcus -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 8:29 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
gman -- Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 12:39 p.m.
Anne Rice's The Feast of All Saints
seshatasefekht -- Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 12:52 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
AaronJudah2003 -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 3:21 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Poetic_Princess -- Wednesday, 10 November 2004, at 9:18 p.m.
Ayinde is Hypocrtical (and so are others)
AaronJudah2003 -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 7:25 a.m.
Re: Ayinde is Hypocrtical (and so are others)
bikoture -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 9:17 a.m.
Re: Your Arrogance is not surprising
Ras Tyehimba -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 9:43 a.m.
Re: Your Arrogance is not surprising
Fyahman -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 11:35 a.m.
Re: Your Arrogance is not surprising
AaronJudah2003 -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 1:16 p.m.
Re: Ayinde is Hypocrtical (and so are others)
Ayinde -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 11:15 a.m.
Re: Ayinde is Hypocrtical (and so are others)
AaronJudah2003 -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 11:28 a.m.
Re: Ayinde is Hypocrtical (and so are others)
iyah360 -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 11:54 a.m.
Re: Ayinde is Hypocrtical (and so are others)
AaronJudah2003 -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 1:18 p.m.
Re: Ayinde is Hypocrtical (and so are others)
iyah360 -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 2:18 p.m.
Re: Ayinde is Hypocrtical (and so are others)
AaronJudah2003 -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 2:29 p.m.
He who feels it knows!
Ayinde -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 3:09 p.m.
There is a better way
Ayinde -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 12:22 p.m.
Re: There is a better way
AaronJudah2003 -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 1:22 p.m.
Re: There is a better way
Ayinde -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 2:33 p.m.
Re: There is a better way
AaronJudah2003 -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 4:27 p.m.
Re: There is a better way
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 1:56 a.m.
Re: There is a better way
gman -- Saturday, 13 November 2004, at 7:56 a.m.
Re: There is a better way
rasi -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 9:06 a.m.
Re: There is a better way
Ayinde -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 9:24 a.m.
Re: There is a better way
AaronJudah2003 -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 10:26 a.m.
Re: There is a better way
Ayinde -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 10:39 a.m.
Re: There is a better way
AaronJudah2003 -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 10:23 a.m.
Re: There is a better way
jahchannah -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 3:39 p.m.
Re: Ayinde is Hypocrtical (and so are others)
Fyahman -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 11:55 a.m.
Re: Ayinde is Hypocrtical (and so are others)
AaronJudah2003 -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 1:06 p.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa *LINK*
Ras Eli -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 9:24 a.m.
Re: Barbados: White Rasta director of African Affa
Ras Tyehimba -- Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 9:47 a.m.
brother reminds me of mickey leland *LINK*
seshatasefekht -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 12:38 p.m.
Re: brother reminds me of mickey leland
AaronJudah2003 -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 4:22 p.m.
Re: brother reminds me of mickey leland
Ayinde -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 5:04 p.m.
Re: brother reminds me of mickey leland
AaronJudah2003 -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 8:05 p.m.
My Final Word
AaronJudah2003 -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 8:31 p.m.
Re: My Final Word
Ras Marcus -- Friday, 12 November 2004, at 9:41 p.m.

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