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Re: Garvey speaks on Haile Selassie I

Posted By: givin_thanx
Date: Sunday, 6 June 2004, at 6:13 p.m.

In Response To: Garvey speaks on Haile Selassie I (Israelite Anbessa)

Cause he who fights and run away...Live to fight another day.... -Robert Nesta Marley

"When the emperor finally reached the capital on the afternoon of 30, April, he went into an immediate meeting with the Council of Ministers.It was a quiet session, during which the participants "conferred in hushed tones for hours," and convened again the next day before convincing Haile Selassie to leave with his family. Although unprecedented and certainly dramatic, it was the correct move to make: as long as the sovereign was free and unbowed, Italian rule could have no legitimacy. For the emperor to have remained in Ethiopia- and it took all the strength and conviction of the government and empress to convince him to leave- would have been vainglorious, for he would have risked a humiliating capture, death, or even worse, submission to the conqueror. Haile Selassie could not withstand the logic of the case for exile, AND AS SUBSEQUENT EVENTS WOULD AMPLY PROVE, WITHDRAWL TO EUROPE ENSURED THAT ETHIOPIA WOULD BE FREE IN FIVE SHORT YEARS." (Cap lock mine for emphasis)

-Haile Selassie I- The Formative Years, by Harold G. Marcus, Pg. 179

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Garvey speaks on Haile Selassie I
Israelite Anbessa -- Sunday, 6 June 2004, at 8:11 a.m.

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rashoward -- Sunday, 6 June 2004, at 3:01 p.m.

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givin_thanx -- Sunday, 6 June 2004, at 6:13 p.m.

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Ayinde -- Monday, 7 June 2004, at 10:29 a.m.

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givin_thanx -- Monday, 7 June 2004, at 10:47 a.m.

In my house , there is a picture of
bikoture -- Monday, 7 June 2004, at 11:03 a.m.

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Ayinde -- Monday, 7 June 2004, at 2:56 p.m.

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rashoward -- Monday, 7 June 2004, at 6:03 p.m.

Are you a Rastafarian? *NM*
Israelite Anbessa -- Monday, 7 June 2004, at 2:36 p.m.

Re: Are you a Rastafarian?
Ras Tyehimba -- Monday, 7 June 2004, at 8:04 p.m.

Re: Garvey speaks on Haile Selassie I
rashoward -- Monday, 7 June 2004, at 5:53 p.m.

This was to AYINDE'S POST ABOVE *NM*
Israelite Anbessa -- Monday, 7 June 2004, at 2:37 p.m.

Re: This was to AYINDE'S POST ABOVE
Ayinde -- Monday, 7 June 2004, at 2:53 p.m.

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Ras Marcus -- Monday, 7 June 2004, at 9:22 p.m.

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givin_thanx -- Tuesday, 8 June 2004, at 2:21 a.m.

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rashoward -- Tuesday, 8 June 2004, at 8:50 a.m.

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Ras Marcus -- Tuesday, 8 June 2004, at 9:04 p.m.

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rashoward -- Tuesday, 8 June 2004, at 8:44 a.m.

Again Elder !!!
bikoture -- Wednesday, 9 June 2004, at 10:39 a.m.

Re: Again Elder !!!
Ras Marcus -- Wednesday, 9 June 2004, at 9:42 p.m.

Again Elder!!!!!
ras adam simeon -- Wednesday, 9 June 2004, at 10:41 p.m.

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Ayinde -- Wednesday, 9 June 2004, at 10:55 p.m.

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Ras Marcus -- Thursday, 10 June 2004, at 10:40 p.m.

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Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 1:32 p.m.

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givin_thanx -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 2:43 p.m.

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Freespirit -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 2:14 p.m.

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ras marcus -- Saturday, 12 June 2004, at 2:46 p.m.

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Freespirit -- Thursday, 17 June 2004, at 1:59 p.m.

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selassielive -- Thursday, 17 June 2004, at 2:12 p.m.

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givin_thanx -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 2:41 p.m.

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iyah360 -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 3:02 p.m.

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givin_thanx -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 3:34 p.m.

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iyah360 -- Saturday, 12 June 2004, at 9:27 a.m.

Elder Marcus
ras adam simeon -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 5:10 p.m.

Re: Elder Marcus
Ras Marcus -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 11:24 p.m.

Re: Elder Marcus
Freespirit -- Saturday, 12 June 2004, at 4:30 a.m.

My Opinion...
Israelite Anbessa -- Saturday, 12 June 2004, at 6:30 a.m.

Re: Elder Marcus
Ayinde -- Saturday, 12 June 2004, at 6:34 a.m.

Re: Elder Marcus
Freespirit -- Saturday, 12 June 2004, at 8:17 a.m.

Re: Elder Marcus
Ayinde -- Saturday, 12 June 2004, at 8:55 a.m.

Re: Elder Marcus
Freespirit -- Thursday, 17 June 2004, at 2:13 p.m.

Re: Elder Marcus
gman -- Thursday, 17 June 2004, at 7:16 p.m.

Re: Elder Marcus
rashoward -- Saturday, 12 June 2004, at 10:41 p.m.

Re: Elder Marcus
Ras K -- Sunday, 13 June 2004, at 6:54 a.m.

Re: Elder Marcus
rashoward -- Sunday, 13 June 2004, at 1:17 p.m.

Re: Elder Marcus
rashoward -- Sunday, 13 June 2004, at 1:27 p.m.

Re: Elder Marcus
Ras K -- Saturday, 12 June 2004, at 6:48 a.m.

Re: Elder Marcus
nyamabla -- Sunday, 13 June 2004, at 7:25 p.m.

Re: Elder Marcus
Ras Marcus -- Sunday, 13 June 2004, at 9:04 p.m.

Re: Again Elder!!!!!
untojah -- Monday, 14 June 2004, at 7:25 a.m.

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Ras Marcus -- Monday, 14 June 2004, at 10:37 p.m.

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untojah -- Tuesday, 15 June 2004, at 6:04 a.m.

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Ras Marcus -- Tuesday, 15 June 2004, at 9:08 p.m.

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gman -- Wednesday, 16 June 2004, at 1:29 p.m.

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untojah -- Friday, 18 June 2004, at 5:40 a.m.

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Ras Marcus -- Sunday, 20 June 2004, at 10:56 p.m.

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Ras Marcus -- Saturday, 19 June 2004, at 11:43 p.m.

W.E.B. DuBois' The Souls of Black Folk
R. Thomas -- Monday, 21 June 2004, at 4:38 a.m.

Re: Again Elder!!!!!
iyah360 -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 11:52 a.m.

Re: Again Elder !!!
rashoward -- Thursday, 10 June 2004, at 12:33 a.m.

Re: Again Elder !!!
bikoture -- Thursday, 10 June 2004, at 3:23 a.m.

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rashoward -- Thursday, 10 June 2004, at 5:19 p.m.

Re: Garvey speaks on Haile Selassie I
ravin -- Saturday, 19 June 2004, at 1:31 p.m.

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Ras Marcus -- Saturday, 19 June 2004, at 6:03 p.m.

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ravin -- Saturday, 19 June 2004, at 6:35 p.m.

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Ras Marcus -- Saturday, 19 June 2004, at 7:46 p.m.

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ravin -- Saturday, 19 June 2004, at 10:11 p.m.

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Israelite Anbessa -- Tuesday, 8 June 2004, at 3:09 p.m.

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rashoward -- Tuesday, 8 June 2004, at 6:42 p.m.

To RasHoward
Israelite Anbessa -- Thursday, 10 June 2004, at 6:02 a.m.

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rashoward -- Thursday, 10 June 2004, at 5:11 p.m.

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Israelite Anbessa -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 1:45 p.m.

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rashoward -- Thursday, 17 June 2004, at 3:55 p.m.

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rashoward -- Thursday, 17 June 2004, at 3:56 p.m.

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Israelite Anbessa -- Friday, 18 June 2004, at 9:16 a.m.

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rashoward -- Saturday, 19 June 2004, at 7:28 p.m.

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iyah360 -- Wednesday, 9 June 2004, at 4:05 p.m.

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Ayinde -- Wednesday, 9 June 2004, at 10:59 p.m.

Garvey on Haile
ras adam simeon -- Wednesday, 9 June 2004, at 11:07 p.m.

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rashoward -- Thursday, 10 June 2004, at 12:55 a.m.

Garvey on Haile
ras adam simeon -- Thursday, 10 June 2004, at 6:58 a.m.

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rashoward -- Thursday, 10 June 2004, at 5:00 p.m.

Re: Garvey on Haile
Israelite Anbessa -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 1:51 p.m.

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iyah360 -- Thursday, 10 June 2004, at 9:18 a.m.

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Ayinde -- Thursday, 10 June 2004, at 5:14 p.m.

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Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 10 June 2004, at 6:54 p.m.

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jahreal -- Thursday, 10 June 2004, at 10:01 p.m.

Villification par excellence?support yo statements *NM*
bikoture -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 4:47 a.m.

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bikoture -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 6:36 a.m.

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Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 1:07 p.m.

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iyah360 -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 9:14 a.m.

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iyah360 -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 9:31 a.m.

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iyah360 -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 9:33 a.m.

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bikoture -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 11:31 a.m.

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rashoward -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 9:49 a.m.

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iyah360 -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 10:19 a.m.

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rashoward -- Saturday, 12 June 2004, at 10:53 p.m.

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Israelite Anbessa -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 2:15 p.m.

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Israelite Anbessa -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 2:17 p.m.

Sorry, this was to KELANIS LAST POST ABOVE! *NM*
Israelite Anbessa -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 2:18 p.m.

Re: Garvey speaks on Haile Selassie I
Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 2:54 p.m.

to Kelani
Israelite Anbessa -- Saturday, 12 June 2004, at 5:55 a.m.

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iyah360 -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 3:32 p.m.

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Bantu-Kelani -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 3:53 p.m.

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Israelite Anbessa -- Saturday, 12 June 2004, at 6:09 a.m.

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Bantu-Kelani -- Saturday, 12 June 2004, at 4:44 p.m.

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Ayinde -- Saturday, 12 June 2004, at 8:14 p.m.

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Bantu-Kelani -- Sunday, 13 June 2004, at 5:06 a.m.

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givin_thanx -- Saturday, 12 June 2004, at 10:07 p.m.

to KELANI
Israelite Anbessa -- Sunday, 13 June 2004, at 6:09 a.m.

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Bantu-Kelani -- Sunday, 13 June 2004, at 8:09 a.m.

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Israelite Anbessa -- Sunday, 13 June 2004, at 1:11 p.m.

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Bantu-Kelani -- Sunday, 13 June 2004, at 9:55 a.m.

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Israelite Anbessa -- Sunday, 13 June 2004, at 1:26 p.m.

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Ayinde -- Sunday, 13 June 2004, at 11:26 a.m.

HIM "Africanness" and Exploding the Myth of whitey
Ras Nathaniel -- Sunday, 13 June 2004, at 5:33 p.m.

WE AFRICANS WILL FIGHT, IF NECESSARY
Ras Nathaniel -- Sunday, 13 June 2004, at 5:39 p.m.

HIM SAYS BURN FOREIGN RELIGION BONDAGE
Ras Nathaniel -- Sunday, 13 June 2004, at 5:46 p.m.

HIM SAY UNITY OF MYSTICS WHATEVER THE RELIGION
Ras Nathaniel -- Sunday, 13 June 2004, at 5:58 p.m.

HIM SAY I&I FREE TO WORSHIP HIM HAILE SELASSIE I
Ras Nathaniel -- Sunday, 13 June 2004, at 6:03 p.m.

EOC ABUNAS SAY BIBLE SAY HIM RASTAFARI GOD, TOO!
Ras Nathaniel -- Sunday, 13 June 2004, at 6:10 p.m.

Re: EOC ABUNAS SAY BIBLE SAY HIM RASTAFARI GOD, TO
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 14 June 2004, at 3:19 a.m.

Re: EOC ABUNAS SAY BIBLE SAY HIM RASTAFARI GOD, TO
gman -- Monday, 14 June 2004, at 2:26 p.m.

Re: EOC ABUNAS SAY BIBLE SAY HIM RASTAFARI GOD, TO
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 14 June 2004, at 5:30 p.m.

Re: EOC ABUNAS SAY BIBLE SAY HIM RASTAFARI GOD, TO
gman -- Tuesday, 15 June 2004, at 12:35 p.m.

GIVE THANKS Elder Ras Nathaniel!!!
Israelite Anbessa -- Monday, 14 June 2004, at 2:37 p.m.

Re: GIVE THANKS Elder Ras Nathaniel!!!
Bantu-Kelani -- Monday, 14 June 2004, at 4:31 p.m.

Re: my 2 cents
rasi -- Monday, 14 June 2004, at 6:20 p.m.

Re: GIVE THANKS Elder Ras Nathaniel!!!
Israelite Anbessa -- Wednesday, 16 June 2004, at 8:50 a.m.

Re: It is Posts like these
Ras Tyehimba -- Wednesday, 16 June 2004, at 2:22 p.m.

Re: It is Posts like these
Israelite Anbessa -- Wednesday, 16 June 2004, at 2:50 p.m.

"only a foolish dog
bikoture -- Tuesday, 15 June 2004, at 1:29 p.m.

Re: "only a foolish dog
Bantu-Kelani -- Tuesday, 15 June 2004, at 3:24 p.m.

Re: "only a foolish dog
selassielive -- Wednesday, 16 June 2004, at 4:48 p.m.

Re: "only a foolish dog
rashoward -- Sunday, 20 June 2004, at 12:15 p.m.

Re: "only a foolish dog
bikoture -- Thursday, 17 June 2004, at 5:46 a.m.

Re: . The truth can only be said boldly
Bantu-Kelani -- Thursday, 17 June 2004, at 9:39 a.m.

Garvey speaks on Haile Selassie I
Ayinde -- Wednesday, 16 June 2004, at 10:48 a.m.

'Sup dawg
gman -- Wednesday, 16 June 2004, at 1:41 p.m.

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iyah360 -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 9:08 a.m.

true rastaman!!!
bikoture -- Friday, 11 June 2004, at 10:44 a.m.

Re: Garvey speaks on Haile Selassie I
Israelite Anbessa -- Thursday, 10 June 2004, at 6:15 a.m.