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Smoke screen

Posted By: Ayinde
Date: Monday, 29 June 2009, at 7:31 a.m.

In Response To: Getting High! (Ayinde)

It is really a stretch for people to be arguing in favour of smoking marijuana only from the point of view of it being medicinally useful. That argument is fine for assisting sick people, but what about all the other people who are not ill but still use it? You should make the argument about more than that.

I suspect some other posters may eventually come along who may have more to offer than what we are getting so far.

Also, the argument about calling the plant "herb" instead of marijuana is weak. The term herb is only one of many common slang names for marijuana. In fact, ‘herb’ generically refers to a wide category of plants. "Herb" is also negatively used in some urban settings (see what I found online below) and is a European word. The European scientific name for the plant is "cannabis".

Those who are against the word marijuana are not advancing an argument in favour of an African or Asian name for the plant, so I gather they are not against European terms for the plant. In that case, they should show how the term ‘marijuana’ contributes to the plant’s negative stigma within sections of society and also for it being illegal.

Check out the different meanings the online urban dictionary gives for the use of "herb":

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1. herb

used by rapper esoteric, in the song herb. pronounced like its spelled, no silent h. it doesn’t mean weed or drugs, its a term for someone who follows trends... basically one of those kind of people that nobody likes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V3g0MXjXZA

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2. herb

a) (on the streets) A stupid person.

b) (on the internet) A geek or a dork. A stupid person.

c) Weed.

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3. herb

Insult synonymous with loser but can have multiple negative connotations. Pronounced "HURB" with no silent 'h.' The term was popularized in upstate New York and spread from there.

Guy 1: Yo, I saw Melvin in the bathroom crying because he got a 93 on the math test!

Guy 2: Word? That kid is a total HERB!

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4. herb

a slang term for marijuana

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5. herb

a loser...someone who tries to be like other people to much...someone who’s a cornball etc...
- everyone knows someone like that

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6. Herb

Someone who tries too hard to be cool. An overzealous poseur.

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7. herb

1. (noun) Nerd; dork; geek; generally uncool person. Originated in early 1980s Burger King ad campaign in which a nerd named HERB was featured. The term was subsequently embraced by the hip hop generation.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=herb

Messages In This Thread

Getting High!
Ayinde -- Tuesday, 23 June 2009, at 12:09 p.m.
Re: Getting High!
Andrey Thomas -- Tuesday, 23 June 2009, at 12:26 p.m.
Re: Getting High!
RasPaul Motingwa II -- Tuesday, 23 June 2009, at 1:33 p.m.
Re: Getting High!
Andrey Thomas -- Tuesday, 23 June 2009, at 8:36 p.m.
Re: Getting High!
discipleofmaat -- Tuesday, 23 June 2009, at 11:37 p.m.
You were bigging it up when u first came on here
gman -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 6:42 a.m.
I told you to get off of me.
discipleofmaat -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 7:11 a.m.
U have an inflated sense of self-importance
gman -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 9:48 a.m.
stop worshiping me...go away...shoo!!!
discipleofmaat -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 12:07 p.m.
I don't follow ur orders, u arrogant fool. *NM*
gman -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 1:33 p.m.
stop that means you will continue worshiping me??? *NM*
discipleofmaat -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 9:23 p.m.
Re: You were bigging it up when u first came on he
Andrey Thomas -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 12:08 p.m.
explain...
discipleofmaat -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 12:14 p.m.
Re: explain...
Andrey Thomas -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 9:29 p.m.
nothingness,,,as usual *NM*
discipleofmaat -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 10:15 p.m.
Re: nothingness,,,as usual
Andrey Thomas -- Thursday, 25 June 2009, at 10:42 a.m.
Hon. Ayinde this is a Hypocritical topic!!!!
BO BO KWAME -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 12:48 p.m.
Not to speak for Ayinde but...
gman -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 4:48 p.m.
Some get high or low and some get it...
Ayinde -- Thursday, 25 June 2009, at 2:49 a.m.
Re: Hon. Ayinde this is a Hypocritical topic!!!!
Andrey Thomas -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 9:33 p.m.
lay off the man please *NM*
lord creator -- Friday, 3 July 2009, at 10:05 a.m.
Re: Getting High!
Andrey Thomas -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 11:58 a.m.
Re: Getting High!
Andrey Thomas -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 12:03 p.m.
a mind is a terrible thing to bun out
discipleofmaat -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 12:11 p.m.
Re: a mind is a terrible thing to bun out
Andrey Thomas -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 12:16 p.m.
amen *NM*
lord creator -- Friday, 3 July 2009, at 10:08 a.m.
Re: Getting High!
discipleofmaat -- Tuesday, 23 June 2009, at 2:03 p.m.
"mental medicine" and "healing herb" is hogwash
discipleofmaat -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 7:59 a.m.
Re: "mental medicine" and "healing herb" is hogwas *LINK*
selassielive -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 9:53 a.m.
Re: "mental medicine" and "healing herb" is hogwas
discipleofmaat -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 12:03 p.m.
Re: "mental medicine" and "healing herb" is hogwas
selassielive -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 1:33 p.m.
Re: "mental medicine" and "healing herb" is hogwas
discipleofmaat -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 9:21 p.m.
U should say "any1 except gman" 2 b consistent
gman -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 1:52 p.m.
a psychotic weed burn-out....just like rastambo *NM*
discipleofmaat -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 9:27 p.m.
Re: a psychotic weed burn-out....just like rastamb
Andrey Thomas -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 9:52 p.m.
Re: a psychotic weed burn-out....just like rastamb
discipleofmaat -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 10:17 p.m.
Re: a psychotic weed burn-out....just like rastamb
Andrey Thomas -- Thursday, 25 June 2009, at 10:46 a.m.
Ur conduct speaks for itself, "opinion".
gman -- Thursday, 25 June 2009, at 8:35 a.m.
why not respond to Ayinde as you promised???
discipleofmaat -- Thursday, 25 June 2009, at 8:58 a.m.
just in case you have short-term memory loss *LINK*
discipleofmaat -- Thursday, 25 June 2009, at 9:01 a.m.
U R a liar & distorter; = "low" mentality
gman -- Thursday, 25 June 2009, at 12:41 p.m.
keep on worshiping and worrying about me
discipleofmaat -- Thursday, 25 June 2009, at 1:04 p.m.
Re: U R a liar & distorter; = "low" mentality
Andrey Thomas -- Friday, 26 June 2009, at 8:16 a.m.
Re: Ur conduct speaks for itself, "opinion".
Andrey Thomas -- Thursday, 25 June 2009, at 10:59 a.m.
Re: Ur conduct speaks for itself, "opinion".
Andrey Thomas -- Thursday, 25 June 2009, at 11:04 a.m.
Re: "mental medicine" and "healing herb" is hogwas *LINK*
fireworkssound -- Friday, 26 June 2009, at 2:21 a.m.
Re: "mental medicine" and "healing herb" is hogwas
fireworkssound -- Friday, 26 June 2009, at 2:26 a.m.
Re: "mental medicine" and "healing herb" is hogwas
discipleofmaat -- Friday, 26 June 2009, at 6:46 a.m.
Re: "mental medicine" and "healing herb" is hogwas
fireworkssound -- Friday, 26 June 2009, at 11:38 a.m.
give thankhs *NM*
discipleofmaat -- Friday, 26 June 2009, at 12:14 p.m.
Nausea for sure.
gman -- Friday, 26 June 2009, at 12:16 p.m.
Re: Nausea for sure.
simon I -- Friday, 26 June 2009, at 6:38 p.m.
Re: Nausea for sure.
fireworkssound -- Friday, 26 June 2009, at 8:27 p.m.
Re: Getting High!
gman -- Tuesday, 23 June 2009, at 4:50 p.m.
Re: Getting High!
Andrey Thomas -- Tuesday, 23 June 2009, at 8:40 p.m.
Re: Getting High!
Ayinde -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 6:35 a.m.
Re: Getting High!
gman -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 6:44 a.m.
Re: Getting High! Part one
gman -- Friday, 3 July 2009, at 1:48 p.m.
Re: Getting High! Part one
Ayinde -- Saturday, 4 July 2009, at 8:26 p.m.
Re: Getting High! Part one
simon I -- Sunday, 5 July 2009, at 6:47 a.m.
Re: Getting High! continued
gman -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 8:19 a.m.
plus one more thing
gman -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 1:26 p.m.
Re: plus one more thing
rosalind -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 10:47 p.m.
Re: Getting High! continued
Ayinde -- Thursday, 9 July 2009, at 1:30 a.m.
Re: Getting High! *LINK*
seshatasefekht -- Tuesday, 23 June 2009, at 10:53 p.m.
Re: Getting High!
Ayinde -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 6:32 a.m.
nice try Ayinde...
rosalind -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 3:57 p.m.
Re: nice try Ayinde...
Ayinde -- Thursday, 25 June 2009, at 2:57 a.m.
Re: Getting High!
seshatasefekht -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 9:33 p.m.
Re: Getting High!
Ayinde -- Thursday, 25 June 2009, at 3:05 a.m.
Re: Getting High!
selassielive -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 9:33 a.m.
Re: Getting High!
Andrey Thomas -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 12:21 p.m.
Incense & Marijuana Differences?
Noble Ras Heru -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 8:47 p.m.
Re: Incense & Marijuana Differences?
Andrey Thomas -- Wednesday, 24 June 2009, at 9:58 p.m.
Re: Getting High!
Ayinde -- Thursday, 25 June 2009, at 3:45 a.m.
Re: Getting High!
Ayinde -- Thursday, 25 June 2009, at 4:25 a.m.
Re: Getting High!
gman -- Thursday, 25 June 2009, at 8:42 a.m.
Is this an Ayinde clone?
karibkween -- Thursday, 25 June 2009, at 12:54 p.m.
No offense but are you off your rocker???
gman -- Friday, 26 June 2009, at 7:33 a.m.
We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Out
ras marcus -- Friday, 26 June 2009, at 10:26 p.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
Ayinde -- Saturday, 27 June 2009, at 3:04 a.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
ras marcus -- Saturday, 27 June 2009, at 3:40 p.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
Ayinde -- Sunday, 28 June 2009, at 9:07 a.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
ras marcus -- Sunday, 28 June 2009, at 10:37 p.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
rootsie -- Thursday, 2 July 2009, at 9:00 p.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
ras marcus -- Friday, 3 July 2009, at 10:34 p.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
NB -- Sunday, 5 July 2009, at 9:44 a.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
rootsie -- Sunday, 5 July 2009, at 12:11 p.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
NB -- Sunday, 5 July 2009, at 6:30 p.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
simon I -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 12:03 a.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
rootsie -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 8:57 a.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
simon I -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 10:06 a.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
rootsie -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 12:35 p.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
NB -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 10:25 a.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
rootsie -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 12:24 p.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
simon I -- Monday, 6 July 2009, at 9:26 p.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
NB -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 1:20 a.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
rootsie -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 8:24 a.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
NB -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 10:43 a.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
rootsie -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 9:10 p.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
simon I -- Tuesday, 7 July 2009, at 10:33 p.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
rootsie -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 8:01 a.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
NB -- Wednesday, 8 July 2009, at 11:01 a.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
Andrey Thomas -- Sunday, 28 June 2009, at 5:02 p.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
ras marcus -- Sunday, 28 June 2009, at 10:57 p.m.
Ras Tafari people go evry wright to consoum hearb!
BO BO KWAME -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 8:35 a.m.
Re: Ras Tafari people go evry wright to consoum he
ras marcus -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 10:18 p.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
Andrey Thomas -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 2:15 p.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
ras marcus -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 10:34 p.m.
BINGIE MAN AND BINGIE WOMBMAN AND BINGIE YOTS!
BO BO KWAME -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 9:51 a.m.
Re: BINGIE MAN AND BINGIE WOMBMAN AND BINGIE YOTS!
ras marcus -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 10:42 p.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
Andrey Thomas -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 10:48 a.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
ras marcus -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 10:56 p.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
BO BO KWAME -- Wednesday, 1 July 2009, at 5:47 a.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
ras marcus -- Thursday, 2 July 2009, at 3:00 p.m.
Re: We Get Our Noses To Breath Fresh Air In And Ou
Andrey Thomas -- Wednesday, 1 July 2009, at 11:29 p.m.
yes animals also dont classify substances
lord creator -- Friday, 3 July 2009, at 10:16 a.m.
Re: yes animals also dont classify substances
ras marcus -- Friday, 3 July 2009, at 10:50 p.m.
Re: Getting High!
Ayinde -- Saturday, 27 June 2009, at 3:38 a.m.
would you mind clarifiying for me...
discipleofmaat -- Saturday, 27 June 2009, at 9:42 a.m.
Re: would you mind clarifiying for me...
fireworkssound -- Saturday, 27 June 2009, at 1:36 p.m.
Re: would you mind clarifiying for me...
Andrey Thomas -- Sunday, 28 June 2009, at 5:07 p.m.
Re: would you mind clarifiying for me...
Andrey Thomas -- Sunday, 28 June 2009, at 5:11 p.m.
RASTA DONT GET HIGH!!!
BO BO KWAME -- Thursday, 25 June 2009, at 11:11 a.m.
Re: RASTA DONT GET HIGH!!!
Andrey Thomas -- Friday, 26 June 2009, at 8:35 a.m.
Re: Getting High!
simon I -- Friday, 26 June 2009, at 5:13 a.m.
Re: Getting High!
simon I -- Friday, 26 June 2009, at 5:51 a.m.
Smoke screen
Ayinde -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 7:31 a.m.
Re: Smoke screen
simon I -- Monday, 29 June 2009, at 9:51 p.m.
Re: Smoke screen
Ayinde -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 2:09 a.m.
INTELGENT REASONINGS INI A CALL 4?
BO BO KWAME -- Tuesday, 30 June 2009, at 10:12 a.m.
Re: Smoke screen
Tracey -- Wednesday, 1 July 2009, at 12:24 a.m.
THAT DRO MAKE Smoke screen TRY A NATAL CHRONICK!
BO BO KWAME -- Wednesday, 1 July 2009, at 6:08 a.m.
Re: Smoke screen
simon I -- Wednesday, 1 July 2009, at 9:25 p.m.
THAT INDO DA GIVE A Smoke screen
BO BO KWAME -- Thursday, 2 July 2009, at 7:25 a.m.
Re: Smoke screen
discipleofmaat -- Thursday, 2 July 2009, at 8:05 a.m.
I've been busy&u ain't gonna read it anyway!!
gman -- Friday, 3 July 2009, at 8:56 a.m.
Re: I've been busy&u ain't gonna read it anyway!!
discipleofmaat -- Friday, 3 July 2009, at 9:32 a.m.
Re: I've been busy&u ain't gonna read it anyway!!
gman -- Friday, 3 July 2009, at 1:09 p.m.
congrats on finding your new job *NM*
discipleofmaat -- Friday, 3 July 2009, at 6:09 p.m.
if one is at one with their divine higher self
lord creator -- Friday, 3 July 2009, at 9:55 a.m.
maybe the plant enhances the soul of a person?
lord creator -- Friday, 3 July 2009, at 10:01 a.m.

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